New i7 is here

[Anonymous]

IT'S HERE!!

the new i7 extreme edition is here
for the same money as the old i7..

six core- 32 nanometer..

render at high speed while watching
revit training videos..

NOW is the time to build a new high
performance computer..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223

[Anonymous]

Please, by my guest to spend well over a thousand dollars for a CPU that
contains two more cores than Revit can actually use.

I can put together a whole workstation based on a slightly older, slightly
slower CPU for that same price.

In ten months this processor will be under $300. But this has always been the
case since the invention of the CPU.



Matt
matt@stachoni.com



On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:22:18 -0700, vector2 <> wrote:

>IT'S HERE!!
>
>the new i7 extreme edition is here
>for the same money as the old i7..
>
>six core- 32 nanometer..
>
>render at high speed while watching
>revit training videos..
>
>NOW is the time to build a new high
>performance computer..
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223 Edited by: Discussion_Admin on Mar 19, 2010 11:13 PM

[Anonymous]

Hmmm. Who cares.

What I want to I to know is: What is best workstation configuration out there for Revit 2010/2011 running 100 - 200 mb project files?
I don't want to wait for screen regens every time I change 3d views, elevations or sections. Time is money.

How much money do I need to spend to get Autocad like performance with this database program (revit) to justify spending anything over a $4,000.00 workstation?

Where does the performance start to drop off relative to the price point? When do you stop throwing good money after bad?

How about someone starting a web site with actual performance reviews that architects and engineers could really understand & use in making hardware selections other than the boiler plate performance testing? Now there's an upstart job idea! And you could charge a small subscription fee!


David

[Anonymous]

bimbang,

I am not aware of a site that has specific configuration reviews / recommendations for your exact example but I did find a few resources you might could start with that might get you closer to the answers you are seeking:

Arrival of the Desktop Supercomputer:
http://www.cadalyst.com/hardware/workstations/arrival-desktop-supercomputer-13183

Advice and information for optimizing use of desktop and mobile workstations for CAD and related applications:
http://www.cadalyst.com/listing/28/workstations

Sorry I couldn't find anything specific but maybe one of these resources will offer some help but I do find the Intel Nehalem generation super computer article interesting enough for more analysis (it says nothing of cost to that might negate any positives). In it the author states,"In one test I observed, a last-generation workstation could process one frame from one of these applications every 50 seconds. By comparison, a single Nehalem-generation workstation running virtualization software can process 30 frames per second in two applications, one in Windows and the other in Linux. That's roughly a 3,600% productivity gain".

Thanks
Jay

[Anonymous]

i totally agree with Matt Stachoni-

the i7 is not necessary for a revit workstation
whether its $1000 for the old one or $1200
for the new one..

a much smarter choice would be this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115218

or if you think four cores would be better:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

[Anonymous]

*sigh*

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,702446/Intel-Core-i3-and-Core-i5-tested-Clarkdale-review/Reviews/

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=117&p2=108&c=1

The Clarkdale processor is wholly inappropriate for Revit.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:35:42 -0700, vector2 <> wrote:

>i totally agree with Matt Stachoni-
>
>the i7 is not necessary for a revit workstation
>whether its $1000 for the old one or $1200
>for the new one..
>
>a much smarter choice would be this:
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115218
>
>or if you think four cores would be better:
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

[Anonymous]

current choices unless you go back to old stuff..


Intel Core i5-670 Clarkdale 3.46GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Two-Core

$279.99


Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.33GHz 12MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Six-Core

$1,131.99


also you need a waterblock for the heat on that Extreme Edition- and you need graphics..

Clarkdale chips are 2 core yes- but they also have hyper-threading-
turbo boost and a shared 4MB L3 cache among other impressive features..
that's why intel needs to educate the consumer about what the Clarkdale chip is..

but if someone really believes 4 cores are better- then they should go back to the old
95 watt Lynnfield i5 750 and make themselves happy.. and also for satisfying those
believers even more is the fact that with some games the graphics performance does
pull ahead with the old 4 core Lynnfield.. so those folks know just what to do..

for me- and for my laptop as well as my desktop- i'll take the Clarkdale..

[Anonymous]

I'm apprehensive about buying any Intel processor from Newegg right now. Seems they had an issue lately where some folks just got a
not so reasonable facsimilie of a fan and no processor.

Safer to shop it around a little, if you're going to go that route, which isn't highly recommended anyway.




wrote in message news:6357956@discussion.autodesk.com...
i totally agree with Matt Stachoni-

the i7 is not necessary for a revit workstation
whether its $1000 for the old one or $1200
for the new one..

a much smarter choice would be this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115218

or if you think four cores would be better:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

[Anonymous]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:44:02 -0700, stac.at.techgrafx
wrote:

>I'm apprehensive about buying any Intel processor from Newegg right now. Seems they had an issue lately where some folks just got a
>not so reasonable facsimilie of a fan and no processor.

Which Newegg promptly replaced with actual units, obviously. Somewhere in the
supply chain the fakes were substituted for the real thing. Newegg promptly
dropped their supplier (IPEX) after the discovery was made.

IOW, Newegg largely acted responsibly and promptly on the issue, so given the
huge sucesss I don't think it is worthy of a boycott.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

[Anonymous]

Thanks Matt.

I hadn't followed the story shortly after I read the initial posts in a forum somewhere. I've bought from Newegg in the past, and
have always been treated decently.

I'm sure it's a pain in the patoot to always stay on top of your suppliers to make sure you're getting what you're supposed to be
getting.





"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message news:6358159@discussion.autodesk.com...
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:44:02 -0700, stac.at.techgrafx
wrote:

>I'm apprehensive about buying any Intel processor from Newegg right now. Seems they had an issue lately where some folks just got a
>not so reasonable facsimilie of a fan and no processor.

Which Newegg promptly replaced with actual units, obviously. Somewhere in the
supply chain the fakes were substituted for the real thing. Newegg promptly
dropped their supplier (IPEX) after the discovery was made.

IOW, Newegg largely acted responsibly and promptly on the issue, so given the
huge sucesss I don't think it is worthy of a boycott.

Matt
matt@stachoni.com

[Anonymous]

heh I run Revit, Max, Inventor, C3D, and World of Warcraft just fine on a i5
750, 4 gigs of ram with a 9800 GT and Win7 64Bit.

I paid less for the whole shooting match than just the i7 chip you keep
harping about.

--
Lance W.

"vector2" wrote in message news:6358058@discussion.autodesk.com...
>
> but if someone really believes 4 cores are better- then they should go
> back to the old
> 95 watt Lynnfield i5 750 and make themselves happy.. and also for
> satisfying those
> believers even more is the fact that with some games the graphics
> performance does
> pull ahead with the old 4 core Lynnfield.. so those folks know just what
> to do..
>
> for me- and for my laptop as well as my desktop- i'll take the Clarkdale..

[Anonymous]

then there comes the question- why do you
need a desktop computer for your personal
home computer if you have a laptop?

UNLESS you also want a "barn-burner"
computer.. and then that has to go into a
desktop case.. (i7- waterblock- big graphics-
big power supply etc. etc.)



gee maybe i should be rich- i want that too.. lol