Nested void not cutting in project.

[cgruwell]

Issue I'm having is that a nested void family (face based) which cuts a nested family within the family environment does not cut when loaded into the project.  

Example:  I have a "raw material family" for a flat plate.  I have this family loaded into a "hardware family" to create this particular piece of hardware.  I've used a void family to create a hole in the "raw material family" within the "hardware family".  everything looks good in this family.  However when loaded into the project the void is no longer cutting.  If the plate is selected you can see the line work for the void.

I have figured out that if I set the raw material family to not be shared then the void cuts in the project, however this ruins my ability to schedule the raw material. 

I have attached an angle family for reference.  Any ideas are welcome

[ToanDN]

Change the nested family to "Shared".

[barthbradley]

"Cut's with Void when Loaded" 

Use Cut Tool in Project

[cgruwell]

You are correct that changing the nested "Raw Material" family to shared will allow it to schedule.  But the issue is that when it is set it to shared the void no longer cuts in the project.  It like I can have one or the other, but not both.  

[cgruwell]

cuts with void when loaded is checked in all families.

[barthbradley]

Is the void hosted or unhosted? You may need another void to cut in the project. 

[cgruwell]

Void is face based and hosted to the raw material family

[barthbradley]

I looked at your families and I'm not sure how the host would cut in the project.  The void is hosted to (cutting through) the bracket in the host family.  

[ToanDN]

See attached.

By the way, you could build the void in the original angle family and use a dimension parameter to control whether it cuts the angle or not.

[cgruwell]

Correct,  You see the slot in the angle family.  Now once you load this family in a project that slot that you see in the family goes away.  Except when you select the angle the line work is still there it's just not cutting in the project.

[cgruwell]

Is the png you posted from the family or project?    

[ToanDN]

project. See the title?

[cgruwell]

Did you do anything to get it to cut in the project because that is not what I or any of my colleagues are getting?  

It's not really feasible to build the void into the raw material family because we have so many different shaped voids.

[barthbradley]

Nest the void into the Raw Material Family and then into the L002 Family and then into the Project. 

...I'm curious to know why all the nesting is necessary? This can easily be done as one family. But, I did see what you were talking about, and I don't have a ready explanation for that behavior. It's a puzzler. 

[cgruwell]

Putting the void in the Raw material family does work, but I am trying to avoid having multiple raw material families for the same raw material.  The cutting and voids we do with the raw material is not something we can really plan for.  This example angle is just a simple slot.     

[ToanDN]

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@cgruwell wrote:

Did you do anything to get it to cut in the project because that is not what I or any of my colleagues are getting?  

It's not really feasible to build the void into the raw material family because we have so many different shaped voids.

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I changed the nested RAW MATERIAL family to Not Shared.  

You can nest the void family directly in the raw material family and use a Family Type parameter to manage different void shapes.

[barthbradley]

Cuts fine as I described. Here's the Family in the Project:

All I did was change the nesting order. The number of families (3) is still the same. Still, I'm not understanding why 3 is needed.  

[cgruwell]

Thank you guys for taking the time to look at this.  Seems like you both have come to the conclusion that the void should be in the raw material family.  Not the solution I had hoped for but at least now I know I'm not losing it.  I just wish it would work like I have it.    

[ToanDN]

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@cgruwell wrote:

Thank you guys for taking the time to look at this.  Seems like you both have come to the conclusion that the void should be in the raw material family.  Not the solution I had hoped for but at least now I know I'm not losing it.  I just wish it would work like I have it.    

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That is one way. 

The other way is making the RAW angle family Not shared like in the file attached to my previous post.

[cgruwell]

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@ToanDN wrote:

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@cgruwell wrote:

Thank you guys for taking the time to look at this.  Seems like you both have come to the conclusion that the void should be in the raw material family.  Not the solution I had hoped for but at least now I know I'm not losing it.  I just wish it would work like I have it.    

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That is one way. 

The other way is making the RAW angle family Not shared like in the file attached to my previous post.

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If its not shared I can't schedule it.  The whole purpose of the extra family is to schedule it.  I really don't understand why shared vs not shared has anything to do with the viability of the cut.