Nested Annotion family not displayed in project.

Nested Annotion family not displayed in project.

jakob_hansson
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Nested Annotion family not displayed in project.

jakob_hansson
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Hello!
I have created an generic annotation (nr1 see picture) to show tread number on my generic stair family (nr2 see picture). it works flawless in family creating, but when i load it into a project(3 see picture) it won't show up in 2d views. I have laborated around with graphic settings but i can't make it work. Am i missing something?

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ralphdenhaan
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Hi,

 

When quickly checking your family, I suggest nesting the generic annotations in a host generic annotation family instead of a detail item family. Then it should work properly.

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Ralph den Haan, (Lazy) BIM Specialist


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jakob_hansson
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ok to make this clear. I put my detail item nested in for example a generic model?What kind of generic model would fit best in this case?
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ridantuo
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Generic Annotation like he said.

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jakob_hansson
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Aaaah okey i see. I tried it, it gives me error when i want to load the family into this kind of family creation. I gues i need to redo the family in this template instead?
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jakob_hansson
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jakob_hansson
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something very strange is going when i try to export parameters from the first family to the new version in "Metric Generic Annotation". I use the addon DiRootsOne to export/import via excell the parameters between old and new. See picture, The length is the same but the distance varies alot, it gets wrong inside the nested stair family. I have quadruple checked the project Units in both families  and its correct but i still gets very wrong, im very confused right now. Im not a very used DiRootsOne user, do i miss something?

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Mike.FORM
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Just an FYI for users. Revit does not allow Labels to be shown in families if they are nested more than two families (project counts as a nesting) deep.

Here we have a Generic Annotation nested into a Detail Item, nested into a Generic Model and then brought into a the project

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ralphdenhaan
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Here is a quick example (see attachment):

 

Create a new Generic annotation family and place your label family in there with all parameters. But first, give it a try and see how it fits.

 

Keep in mind that generic annotations scale in projects.

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jakob_hansson
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Yes that looks perfect! There are alot of parameters in the family for the detail item, it would take alot of time to redo them in a different kind of family. Did you see my earlier comments about this, do you know any solution?
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ralphdenhaan
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Because the Generic Annotation does scale. But why don't you use the detail family in your project? You only have to change some of your instance parameters.

 

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jakob_hansson
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I tried but revit doesn't allow me to import that kind of family into Genereic Annotation. I could use the system family directly into a project, but i would like to have it built in the family so i can use it easy in different projects

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ToanDN
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Why do you change your stair family to Generic annotation?

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jakob_hansson
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i did't try to change the stair family, i tried to put the detail item into a generic annotation.
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joshuaK6KN9
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question for you? Since I cannot nest something two families deep and have it still show in the project, how would I accomplish attaching a label to the fork which has a rotational parameter on it to allow the fork to point to true north. I cannot get the label to rotate appropriately with the fork. I tried locking it to reference planes I created in the fork but it will not rotate properly.

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