Mirror View - Handed Project

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

I would really like to be able to create mirrored, dependent views in Revit. Is this possible?

Ideally I need to have my regular project and associated sheets, alongside handed sheets with the dependent mirrored views on. My thinking is this would allow me to use the same legends/detail groups ect, keeping both drawings exactly the same (but mirrored obviously). I've used the rotate on the crop extents before, it's not obvious how you could mirror it though.

I understand you can save as, 'mirror project. This doesn't work too well for nested groups and also is not dependent on the original version. 

Another option I'm aware of is linking the file and mirroring using the modify tab. This is better, but how are sheets ect. recreated in this project? Will it bring though detail lines ect? I suppose I can re-load any legends and re-use the same, but would still be easier if they were in the same project.

Can anyone shed some light or come up with another alternative?

Thanks in advance,

Jake 

[RobDraw]

A truly mirrored building is a myth.

[Anonymous]

I work with containerised housing, hence the handed versions are indeed true mirrors. 

I don't feel like this should be too complicated to do, there has to be others who have attempted something similar?

[RobDraw]

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@Anonymouswrote:

I work with containerised housing, hence the handed versions are indeed true mirrors. 

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At the most basic level, maybe, but highly doubtful. Do you use opposite handed doors, sinks, etc.?

[ToanDN]

@Anonymous

If you work with modular units then it is best to create each module as a link.

[Anonymous]

We do indeed use handed doors ect. The drawings themselves are manufacturing drawings primarily as opposed to Architecture. Therefore its doesn't matter if, for example, the microwave is mirrored, obviously all the microwaves will be the same. That's not the point of my post.

If I create a module, draw the module and then link it, how do I go about re-creating the views to put on new sheets, without manually doing so? The dependent part is of importance; I would like to duplicate as little modelling as possible.

[ToanDN]

Shouldn't identical module be sharing the same set of views?  Why do you want to repeat information?

[Anonymous]

ToanDN, no offense, but why do you feel that questioning my question rather than attempting to answer it, is useful?

I don't want to repeat the input of information, but repeating information that is derived is valuable in this application. The alternative is giving the shop floor a drawing with a view and saying 'make this, but the other way around'. That's pretty confusing to most people. 

Does anyone have any proposed work arounds? I'm still new to Revit and haven't yet found a way of doing this efficiently.

[RobDraw]

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@Anonymouswrote:

The dependent part is of importance; I would like to duplicate as little modelling as possible.

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Therein lies the problem. The purpose of a dependent view is to make a duplicate view.

[cbcarch]

I don't think Mirrored Dependent Views are possible--as noted in the replies below.

Mirror Project is really the intended use case here--although I understand there are problems with certain Groups and Annotations. 

I have done this on large hotel projects which had symmetrical towers. We developed the 1st tower to a level of completion, then at the end of Construction Documents phase, used Mirror Project for the other tower.

We did have to manually fix quite a few errors, as mentioned above. Once corrected, we Linked the Mirrored

project into the Host project.

We produced Sheets from each model, and then combined PDFs in Bluebeam.

Typical/Detail Sheets were not "mirrored"--we used notes referencing the other tower details.

Not perfect, but still saved many hours compared to re-creating the mirrored tower from scratch.

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

Asking questions two ways is useful to me as it can clarify the goal of the original poster in order to provide a better reply.  It's like if someone asking how to cut his veins effectively, we should be asking if he trying to kill himself and telling him to seek help instead of telling him cutting along is better than cutting across.  Don't you think?

We avoid repeating identical information as much as we can and this practice has been repeatedly (no pun intended) emphasized in every firm I have worked for, especially to the new employees.  The bigger and complex the project the heavier this rule is taken into account.   Anyhow, it's your standards your call.

Firstly, you cannot mirror views in Revit, dependent or not.  Period.

Secondly, mirroring a building or a wing of a building directly in a model may work in the earlier stage.  The more mature the project, the easier things can and will break if you do such command.

If the layouts are identical, I would link your model to another project file, mirror the link, create views and documentation there.  You can override VG to use linked view to capture any visibility settings and annotations already created in the original file. 

[barthbradley]

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That depends @ToanDN; which vein are we talking about?  

[ToanDN]

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@barthbradley wrote:

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That depends @ToanDN; which vein are we talking about?  

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I see what you did there, don't I ?

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the help, its a shame that's the only way it can be done at the moment. Perhaps it's an area for improvement.

If I come up with some automagical mirroring method, I'll make sure I share it on here.

Cheers all.

[rmartinez-vazquez]

I came to this post to do something similar with housing units that are identical so that as I markup or model I don't have to flip my brain to remember "oh, over here its the opposite way".

The only thing I was able to do was rotate the crop region which somewhat rotated the building but no mirroring still.