make this type of structure framing

[Anonymous]

hi is there any way ho to make this tipe of framing ?

because i cant find it in revit family for this type.

i need for my roof structure. thx

[ToanDN]

Load a truss family.

[Anonymous]

i have tried that way but cant find the same profile

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous 

Edit a truss family and modify it or use standard beams, columns and steel connections then group or create an assembly out of them which you should be able to array

[Anonymous]

how to edit it ? any video...thx because i have tried to edit it but it cant.

[syman2000]

My advice is load in OOTB Revit truss. Draw reference plane and give it name

Set to reference plane

Use Structural>Beam system and draw the outline

Once you finish, you should be able to achieve trust you wanted.

[RDAOU · Accepted solution]

@Anonymous 

There is nothing much in Truss family...

1. Edit >> 
2. check the parameters (half panel / panel)>>
3. delete the old Web >>>
4. set your ref planes >>>
5. Place new web >>>
6. Array >>
7. repeat in the opposite direction

Edit...add two reference planes from each each @ half panel from ends and align lock top chord to make it shorter as per your image

Here is an example...can't record longer GIF it wont upload

[Anonymous]

ok. but how to fix this join?

[Anonymous]

ok i see. how to make it slanted or at the surface of the roof ?

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous 

Like this...You place it at one end, change Bearing Chord to Top ... then array it!

[syman2000]

That need to be adjusted base on the family. You can change the offset length. I am using the Structural Framing>Wood>M_TLJ Wood Open Web Joist.

[Martijn.Pater]

Alternatively you could just draw it using structural framing ofcourse, or similarly to a truss draw it as model lines first and snap the framing to that if you like. Ofcourse depending on your needs, how many etc. Don't always find using truss as useful tbh, since you more often then not have to tweak it somewhat... but I guess that's just a preference thing.

[Anonymous]

i got it. thx alot

[Anonymous]

what about the connection? how to make it smooth

[Martijn.Pater]

Use coping, or cut by refplane, or steel connection (depending on situation)... 

[Anonymous]

i have tried that way but here it said...

[Anonymous]

also i just can use structure beam but cannot use structure truss... also why there is a gap between roof and truss ?

[RDAOU]

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@Anonymous wrote:

i have tried that way but here it said...

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@Anonymous 

It will not work if you jump between one reply from 1 forum member to another reply from another forum member (with all due respect to all of them). That is what generates CHAOS regardless if all the methods being suggested are right. So I would suggest that you UN-MARK all the solutions you have marked so far, Focus on one person, TAG that person when you reply using the @ ...solve the issue you are having and Accept that which has solved your issue as a solution! 

Question 1 -

What should you do with the connections...There are a bunch of useful tools you can use under Steel Tab - Mitter/Cope/Cut through/Cut By. Additionally you can use Connections...

Additionally, you need to know the Structural Element (in this case Beams) join behavior depends on the Material Behavior defined in the beam Family - Wood/Concrete/Steel...

Question 2 - 

The error - A truss family is a family which defines a system consisting of Top Chord, Bottom Chord and Web Elements, before you place the truss, you need to define those elements in order for Revit to replace the detail lines you have placed in the family with actual ELEMENTS ie: Beams Hence: 

• You load a Truss
• You define the beams to be used for the Chords and the Web
• Place the Truss as shown above

If you do not define the Turss's elements before you place it, there are high chances that Revit will not be able to place it if the Shape is eccentric 

[Anonymous]

 i have tried but it didnt work

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous 

when placing Truss in 3D directly at the roof edge you use Line tool then place Start / End point... Watch the GIF i posted again and focus on the steps

the pick line you use when

1. Either when placing Structural Beams with 3D snapping
2. or when placing working in Plan View for both Beam and Truss (this will require that you input Start Level offset and End Level Offset if the element is inclined)