I've read various options to create a key plan in Revit. Doing an outline and then using an Annotation Symbol seems great. But when the footprint of the building changes, I would have to redo the outline. Also I would like the Elevation & Section callouts which I've already done in various plan views to also show up on the key plan.
Then you can create actual plan view and turn off stuff you wish not to see, leaving only the exterior walls, or draw regions, lines and lock the boundary to the exterior walls. Duplicate the view as dependent in order to place on multiple sheets.
If you want to see the design changes and the live callouts then Yes.
Another way is create only one view, format to look like what you want, export it to CAD, link the CAD back in and place on a Legend view, place the Legend view on sheets. When things changes, just export to CAD overwriting the old file and reload the CAD link.
Unfortunately, with building design projects, things are changing all the time so we need the key plan to be always up to date on each sheet. Too bad there's no option to place a duplicated dependent view into a Legend. Then I just need one duplicate for the entire project.
I thought I did. You mentioned about exporting to CAD then link the CAD back in placed into a Legend view. But again that means I would have to execute the export to CAD step every time in order to get an updated key plan in the Legend. With one level plan, this is easy, with multiple level plans, then this would take a lot more time. Also I would have to remember to do this before sending out the Sheets to print. Was this what you meant?
I thought I did. You mentioned about exporting to CAD then link the CAD back in placed into a Legend view. But again that means I would have to execute the export to CAD step every time in order to get an updated key plan in the Legend. With one level plan, this is easy, with multiple level plans, then this would take a lot more time. Also I would have to remember to do this before sending out the Sheets to print. Was this what you meant?
Yes that was what I meant. However it is not as bad as it sounds. If your views are setup properly, an export view set is saved correctly, then you can export the entire set of Keyplans at once. Reloading is also just a button click away. You would probably get the whole process done more quickly than me typing this response.
Also I would like the Elevation & Section callouts which I've already done in various plan views to also show up on the key plan.
I've never seen a Key Plan that called out Elevations and Sections. Are you talking about silhouetted plan views of the building footprint that are placed on sheets and serve as a legend to identify areas or zones? Ours don't take up a whole lot of real estate on the sheet. I can't imagine how call-outs would even be readable.
I'm surprised you've never seen section or elevation callouts on key plans. We do this all the time. Otherwise it'll be really hard to figure out by just looking at a sheet where those refer to in plan view. I've attached a typical key plan we use for building section sheets. We have a key plan for building elevations & wall sections sheets as well.
Thanks. I appreciate you sharing. I've never seen such detail on a Key Plan either, what with the halftones and different line types/weights, and stairs, and what not. What does it measure? Maybe 5"x5"?
We also use key plan to do half tones for differentiating plan areas the sheet is focusing on. But elevation & section references are used most often. We use sheets that are typically Arch E size which is 36"x48" so the key plan can occupy an 8"x8" area on the lower right hand corner of the sheet next to the sheet number.
The elevation call-outs is mainly what I don’t get. I’m with you on showing major longitudinal and transverse section called outs. Shading too. But, to your original question, I don’t get why your key plans aren’t updating dynamically? Your KP looks like a live model view. You said that you “have to redo the outline” when the building footprint changes. What do you mean by this?
As I mentioned in one of my replies, duplicating the plan as a dependent view seems to be the only option for a keyplan at the moment. But since I have to use the same plan as keyplan on multiple sheets but just with different areas of it shown with the corresponding elevation or section callouts, that would mean I would have to duplicate my plans as the key plan for as many times as I need on all the sheets. If I had the option of duplicating the plan as a dependent and placing it as a Legend view then I would not need to have so many duplicates and I would only need to duplicate just one time. That's what the export & linking the dwg file allows me to do but then it's no longer dynamic.
Thanks for the feedback. But it looks like there are no real good solutions at this time. I had thought about submitting keyplan to function as a legend option allowing for one view with multiple sheet inserts to the idea forum but I have a feeling it'll go into cyberspace.
Encountering the same issue with the key plans. Far too much time spent on thing as simple as it is. Has anyone worked out better way to do them or has been any improvement in this area?
