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PyRevit add-in has a Keynote Manager that really improves the workflow, i sugest trying it
https://pyrevitlabs.notion.site/Manage-Keynotes-6f083d6f66fe43d68dc5d5407c8e19da
PyRevit add-in has a Keynote Manager that really improves the workflow, i sugest trying it
https://pyrevitlabs.notion.site/Manage-Keynotes-6f083d6f66fe43d68dc5d5407c8e19da
From The Princess Bride... "you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means"... 🙂
Keynotes are possible two ways with actual tools/commands in Revit; Keynotes and Noteblock Schedules. Keynotes uses an external file and keynote tags and are associated with the Keynote parameter each element has. Noteblocks are generic annotation families that have parameters that can be reported in a noteblock schedule.
Keynotes are associated with actual elements in the project and report information stored in an external file. Noteblock schedules only report the instances of a specific generic annotation family that you have placed in a view. This means that noteblocks know nothing about the project and depend entirely on you choosing the correct noteblock family to place in a view and choosing the appropriate type to display the desired "keynote" number. Its relationship to the model is inferred by the reader based on its proximity to an element in the drawing or what its leader/arrow point to.
Keynotes on the other hand are related to actual elements you have to select/pick and then choose from the external file to identify the relevant "keyed" information.
So which system are you actually using? It sounds like you're using a Noteblock family and Noteblock schedule...which is more like "old school" block w/attributes in AutoCAD.
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From The Princess Bride... "you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means"... 🙂
Keynotes are possible two ways with actual tools/commands in Revit; Keynotes and Noteblock Schedules. Keynotes uses an external file and keynote tags and are associated with the Keynote parameter each element has. Noteblocks are generic annotation families that have parameters that can be reported in a noteblock schedule.
Keynotes are associated with actual elements in the project and report information stored in an external file. Noteblock schedules only report the instances of a specific generic annotation family that you have placed in a view. This means that noteblocks know nothing about the project and depend entirely on you choosing the correct noteblock family to place in a view and choosing the appropriate type to display the desired "keynote" number. Its relationship to the model is inferred by the reader based on its proximity to an element in the drawing or what its leader/arrow point to.
Keynotes on the other hand are related to actual elements you have to select/pick and then choose from the external file to identify the relevant "keyed" information.
So which system are you actually using? It sounds like you're using a Noteblock family and Noteblock schedule...which is more like "old school" block w/attributes in AutoCAD.
Steve Stafford
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The Keynote tools were built in response to requests from firms that reference the Construction Specification Institute (CSI) where each division and sub-division defines what elements in the model are. The default keynote source files are based on that concept. That can be reworked to define your own logical organization of standardized notes that people should use to eliminate things that can be misspelled or stated that the company does not want to be said in the documentation.
Noteblock predate Keynotes and mimic the workflow we used in AutoCAD via Blocks with attributes, where I place a symbol block and type in a value. Revit added the capability of scheduling instances of these noteblocks as an improvement beyond what AutoCAD could do at the time.
Some firms want a complete list of keynotes to appear on a sheet, which invites questions from contractors about "missing" relevant keynoted elements in the drawing on the sheet. As in, "I see keynote xxxx but there isn't a tagged item in the drawing, is that a mistake?"
Other firms want to only display a list of keynotes which are actually used on the drawing (thus Filter on Sheet). This also can generate questions...as in, "The list skips numbers 4 and 10, are these missing or irrelevant for this drawing?"
If you have a comprehensive "idea" for a new "keynoting" system...write it up and post in the Revit Ideas forum.
Steve Stafford
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The Keynote tools were built in response to requests from firms that reference the Construction Specification Institute (CSI) where each division and sub-division defines what elements in the model are. The default keynote source files are based on that concept. That can be reworked to define your own logical organization of standardized notes that people should use to eliminate things that can be misspelled or stated that the company does not want to be said in the documentation.
Noteblock predate Keynotes and mimic the workflow we used in AutoCAD via Blocks with attributes, where I place a symbol block and type in a value. Revit added the capability of scheduling instances of these noteblocks as an improvement beyond what AutoCAD could do at the time.
Some firms want a complete list of keynotes to appear on a sheet, which invites questions from contractors about "missing" relevant keynoted elements in the drawing on the sheet. As in, "I see keynote xxxx but there isn't a tagged item in the drawing, is that a mistake?"
Other firms want to only display a list of keynotes which are actually used on the drawing (thus Filter on Sheet). This also can generate questions...as in, "The list skips numbers 4 and 10, are these missing or irrelevant for this drawing?"
If you have a comprehensive "idea" for a new "keynoting" system...write it up and post in the Revit Ideas forum.
Steve Stafford
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Did your question get successfully answered? Then click on the ACCEPT SOLUTION button.
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