Job or Linkedln

[sully00]

Hi,

I am looking to start a career in B.I.M  should I start applying for jobs via Linkedln or create content and post on Linkedln or do both.

Thanks

Sully

[mhiserZFHXS]

Its hard to say based off of so little information. What experience or education do you have? What do you mean by a "career in BIM"? Like a BIM manager? Or a drafter/modeler? What kind of firm are you wanting to work for?

I had no interest in working for a big firm or a firm in a big city, I wanted to work in or around the medium sized town I grew up in, so making actual connections with firms and architects was way more important than any sort of online presence, so LinkedIn was irrelevant to me.

[syman2000]

I would follow these advice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLbLv54hbU&ab_channel=LinkedInNews

[mhiserZFHXS]

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@syman2000 wrote:

I would follow these advice

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Ah yes, follow the advice of a billionaire that has no idea what its like to live as a normal human being... That guy said so much random nonsense that sounds good but means nothing. I'm sorry that you somehow find that inspirational.

[sully00]

I am from UK, I have a degree in architecture obviously there is a career in B.I.M eg B.I.M manager, modeller, drafter. it seems to have worked for you obviously my situation is different.

[sully00]

I will make judgment after watching the video

[mhiserZFHXS]

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@sully00 wrote:

I am from UK, I have a degree in architecture obviously there is a career in B.I.M eg B.I.M manager, modeller, drafter. it seems to have worked for you obviously my situation is different.

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Alright, well first, there is nothing obvious about what your experience would be. We've had people post similar questions here that had little to no formal education in architecture or architecture-adjacent fields.

Second, you better work on your online presence from a professional standpoint. Your two posts here read like an arrogant teenager. I'm not saying that to put you down, but to hopefully help you clean it up a bit. Its not the type of attitude of someone I would want to work with or hire.

And despite all that, to go back to your original question, if your goal is to get into a larger firm or a firm that is considered prestigious, yea, you probably want to have a pretty solid online presence that is easily accessible. I'd make sure you have that setup before you start applying. I'd focus on quality rather than quantity. I'd rather see three or four quality projects than ten lower quality projects.

If you're fresh out of school, make sure you're applying for the appropriate jobs. You're probably not going to get a BIM manager job right off the bat. But if that's something your interested in, you can bring it up in an interview. Maybe someone is retiring soon, or they're expanding their use of Revit or other programs, etc, and they'll bring you in with the intention of prepping you for that position.

Others may have different takes, but that's a starting point based on the little information you've given so far. Feel free to ask more questions.

[syman2000]

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@mhiserZFHXS wrote:

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@syman2000 wrote:

I would follow these advice

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Ah yes, follow the advice of a billionaire that has no idea what its like to live as a normal human being... That guy said so much random nonsense that sounds good but means nothing. I'm sorry that you somehow find that inspirational.

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For you to say that seems idiotic. First I have no idea what was the poster's background and with all assumption he/she could be trying to get into the AEC field just to make quick bucks without knowing how to get there. So I post something general and hope that it fuels his/her spark that not everything is about following certain rules in order to achieve what you want. There are many people on linkedin just to find a job without showcasing their own original work that they have done. Some know how to code and some simply know how to render. However, what majority of the firms are looking for is some that can communicate effectively and solve the problem without managers having to micro manage them. If problem solving skill isn't your strongest, then you have to learn how to do that and use critical thinking to get you to your goal. Also loyalty is very rare these day. We see too many people quit for better paying job.

[ToanDN]

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@syman2000 wrote:

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We see too many people quit for better paying job.

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Hmm... sounds like the right thing to do.

[mhiserZFHXS]

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@syman2000 wrote:

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Also loyalty is very rare these day. We see too many people quit for better paying job.

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Ha. Wow you're all in on the "no one wants to work anymore", "stay loyal to your company and they'll repay you" nonsense huh? Capitalism goes both ways. Workers are rediscovering their self-worth in the economy and you want to knock them down while praising a billionaire. Thumbs up dude.

[syman2000]

Chasing dollar signs eventually will drive up costs since people are just chasing money all day and night. Once that occurs, mom and pop AEC companies will falter and give into bigger and bigger firms that can absorb these costs. Imagine only 3-10 global companies are left and they will only hire people based on ESG and DEI programs. Are you fine with this setup? Since people have no loyalty, you are just a cog in the machine chasing values that don't exist. Also blaming billionaires shows your own hypocrisy. Do you own a smartphone, cars or clothes made by companies who feed these billionaires? You should get rid of those then hate all the billionaires. Don't hate billionaires when you are contributing to their lifestyle.

[mhiserZFHXS]

Prices were skyrocketing well before wages began to go up (where they've gone up). To blame that on workers is absurd. We need to strengthen economic systems that discourages the mass hoarding of wealth by a minuscule portion of society.

And my smartphone can exist without billionaires. A billionaire did not design my phone, or build it. They simply profit from other people's work while providing little to nothing themselves.

Your kowtowing to people that don't care an ounce about you is quite sad. Hope you snap out of it.

[syman2000]

You started these insults. Don't come at me and wag your finger and use excuses to attempt to win a debate. Also stop using Autodesk products if you hate billionaires that much. You are feeding into billionaires coffers by giving into their subscription.

[mhiserZFHXS]

I simply wanted to make sure the OP and any others realized how irrelevant that video was to the original question.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what I am arguing for or against, and I don't think I will convince you otherwise, so I'm done derailing the thread. Take care.

[hmunsell]

If you went to school for Architecture, how did you get your internships? where did you intern?  If you liked any of them, see if there heiring, there already familiar with you.  Architecturally speaking I know my PM's like to see examples of what you worked on previously. What project experience do you have? if your right out of school, what projects did you work on in school, show examples of your work and what your responsibilities were on the project, etc....  

if you have no experience, you're probably going to start out as a Drafter/Modeler until you get some practical experience. Once you have some experience under your belt, you'll have a better idea of what's out there. you may have a better idea of what firms you may want to go to next. Or options to move up in the company you're at. 

I do a lot of our corporate training for my firm. I train people all the time that work here for a couple years, get training and experience, and then move on to a new firm for more pay or benefits, or just for a different experience. I actually encourage that. Work at different firms, see how different firms do things. Then find one you like and want to settle down at. 

[sully00]

Best advice on here thanks I will look in to what u said and see what works best, the only advice was just simple should I look for a job in architecture or just post content on LinkedIn both are very good options.

again thank you.

[RSomppi]

You should focus on getting real life experience. Posting content may not serve you well without that experience. Get the experience and then apply it to your content for the best results in that aspect.

[sully00]

Hi,

Many thanks for your kind response, I will actively apply for jobs as well in Architecture {AEC)  too, I will also reach out to clients and I have a website aswel so will look into adding projects on that too or  maybe you could advise me with any good opinions. 

Kind regards

S

[hmunsell]

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@sully00 wrote:

"...should I look for a job in architecture or just post content on LinkedIn."

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My Pleasure 😁. Posting content on Linked in is good for reference, but actively applying at Firms is how you get hired. 

[mhiserZFHXS]

I'm not sure how much luck you'll have finding clients without experience, and honestly I don't think its responsible to try to go out on your own right away without experience. I'll reiterate what has been said; you should really find a job working for someone else, even if its only for a year or so. School doesn't prepare you to go out and work on your own. It lays a groundwork for you to go out and keep learning.