Is it possible to Scale a Poche up with the change of a view scale?

[joemcninch]

Hello everyone.  This morning one of our QA/QC managers was asking me some questions about how Revit scales poches.  He wants a brick, for example, to show the same at 1/4" scale as it does at 1-1/2" scale.  Meaning if the brick section poche has 3 diagonal lines at 1/4", he would like it to show those same 3 lines at 1-1/2" and so on.  His concern is that when a brick or CMU is at a large scale, the hatch pattern in the detail item becomes too overpowering to the detail proper; although the distance between the poche lines does not change, it visually appears much more dense at a large scale.

I am not sure that I 100% agree with that philosophy, but I am curious to know if there is a way to manipulate the scale by view instead of creating some strange work around with different detail items for different scales.

One followup question:  The poche is not identical on each detail item either.  As in, the cross hatch on a CMU is not centered in the section and changes based on where the detail item is placed in the view.  Is there any way to stop that?  So a detail item looks exactly the same regardless of scale and position in space?

Thanks.

[barthbradley]

Poche? Do you mean Fill Pattern? Sounds like you want to use a drafting fill pattern, rather than a model fill pattern.  

[ToanDN]

What he wants only works with model patterns.  However you cannot assign a model pattern to a material cut pattern so it is a no-go without a lot of manual labor.  

[joemcninch]

---

@barthbradley wrote:

Poche? Do you mean Fill Pattern? Sounds like you want to use a drafting fill pattern, rather than a model fill pattern.  

---

Correct, fill pattern.  The drafting patter would not work either because the fill patterns also scale relative to the view scale.

[joemcninch]

---

@ToanDN wrote:

What he wants only works with model patterns.  However you cannot assign a model pattern to a material cut pattern so it is a no-go without a lot of manual labor.  

---

This was basically what I was thinking as well.  The only way to do it as he would like to see it is essentially 'hand draft' the material patterns when detailing.  Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

[loboarch]

---

@joemcninch wrote:

---

@barthbradley wrote:

Poche? Do you mean Fill Pattern? Sounds like you want to use a drafting fill pattern, rather than a model fill pattern.  

---

Correct, fill pattern.  The drafting patter would not work either because the fill patterns also scale relative to the view scale.

---

Drafting patterns don't scale when the scale of the view scales. They are constant at ALL scales. Model patterns are scaled relative to the view scale, so I think Revit is doing what was originally asked for already. Unless I have completely misunderstood the question.