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Interior glazed partitions (walls) What is standard?

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dunconius
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Interior glazed partitions (walls) What is standard?

dunconius
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To put this in context, I'm working on office interior design projects.

 

In a typical project we would use a LOT of interior glazed partitions. Like 50% of all interior walls are probably glazed. The only option revit has for glazed partitions is the curtain wall. BUT standard doors don't host into curtain walls, you need to use the curtain panel door. BUT that door's width is defined by the width of the panel you make in the curtain system so you can't schedule it properly. In any project I would use the same door regardless of whether it is in a glazed partition or a plasterboard/stud partition.

 

What are other people doing to work around this problem? I have asked several people I know and the most common answer is making a small patch of stud wall the width of the door, and putting that in the curtain wall, then hosting the door in that. But that seems REALLY fiddly to me.

 

I decided to make a regular wall type that is a thin wall with a glass material applied and a sweep top and bottom. This lets me host doors into it but doesn't show a mullion at either end. SO I made a customs curtain wall where the only panel is my sweep wall. That way it hosts doors normally and I can add a mullion either end to represent a proper frame.

 

Am I crazy for coming up with this? What are other people in the office interiors field doing for glazed partitions and doors?

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Interior glazed partitions (walls) What is standard?

To put this in context, I'm working on office interior design projects.

 

In a typical project we would use a LOT of interior glazed partitions. Like 50% of all interior walls are probably glazed. The only option revit has for glazed partitions is the curtain wall. BUT standard doors don't host into curtain walls, you need to use the curtain panel door. BUT that door's width is defined by the width of the panel you make in the curtain system so you can't schedule it properly. In any project I would use the same door regardless of whether it is in a glazed partition or a plasterboard/stud partition.

 

What are other people doing to work around this problem? I have asked several people I know and the most common answer is making a small patch of stud wall the width of the door, and putting that in the curtain wall, then hosting the door in that. But that seems REALLY fiddly to me.

 

I decided to make a regular wall type that is a thin wall with a glass material applied and a sweep top and bottom. This lets me host doors into it but doesn't show a mullion at either end. SO I made a customs curtain wall where the only panel is my sweep wall. That way it hosts doors normally and I can add a mullion either end to represent a proper frame.

 

Am I crazy for coming up with this? What are other people in the office interiors field doing for glazed partitions and doors?

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ToanDN
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I use curtain walls for interior glazed partitions all the time.  As for the door width, remove vertical grid assignment to the curtain wall type and place grids manually to control the distances.  For example, if you want 3 foot door and the mullion width is 2" then place the grids at the door to be 3'-2" apart.

 

If you want to use basic walls in lieu of curtain walls, then use wall sweeps for mullions.

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I use curtain walls for interior glazed partitions all the time.  As for the door width, remove vertical grid assignment to the curtain wall type and place grids manually to control the distances.  For example, if you want 3 foot door and the mullion width is 2" then place the grids at the door to be 3'-2" apart.

 

If you want to use basic walls in lieu of curtain walls, then use wall sweeps for mullions.

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dunconius
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Ahhh, thanks! I didn't realize there was a vertical sweep tool.

 

Do you find it annoying to use curtain panel door systems though? I find the ease of moving doors in a basic wall family is worth any workaround.

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Ahhh, thanks! I didn't realize there was a vertical sweep tool.

 

Do you find it annoying to use curtain panel door systems though? I find the ease of moving doors in a basic wall family is worth any workaround.

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ToanDN
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@dunconius wrote:

Ahhh, thanks! I didn't realize there was a vertical sweep tool.

 

Do you find it annoying to use curtain panel door systems though? I find the ease of moving doors in a basic wall family is worth any workaround.


No I don't.  Moving grids is just as easy as moving door.

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@dunconius wrote:

Ahhh, thanks! I didn't realize there was a vertical sweep tool.

 

Do you find it annoying to use curtain panel door systems though? I find the ease of moving doors in a basic wall family is worth any workaround.


No I don't.  Moving grids is just as easy as moving door.

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