Install error: Revit 2022.1.1 Hotfix

Install error: Revit 2022.1.1 Hotfix

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Install error: Revit 2022.1.1 Hotfix

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Hotfix gets to 33% then comes up with a dialogue saying the feature is on a network resource and asking for the location of RVT.msi. Install is on a standalone machine.

 

Install does not finish and displays error code 1603 - click on search for a solution and it comes up with nothingScreenshot 2021-11-15 141135.jpg 

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RDAOU
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@vaughn 

 

In a local installation, the default location of the installation files (including the RVT.msi) would be C:\Autodesk\Revit_2022_G1_Win_64bit_dlm\x64\RVT

 

If you cannot find them, it could be one of two things

  1. You went for direct install instead of download manager (dlm) and you do not have the installation files 
  2. You had them but they were moved or cleaned up using Windows Disk Cleanup

in such case simply re-download them from Account Management or Autodesk Virtual Agent and extract them to the default location on the C: drive

 

 

Otherwise...see the following post which seems to be having a similar issue with the same error code

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/installation-licensing/revit-installation-fails-code-1603/td-p/887957...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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vaughn
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@RDAOU 

 

This is am update from Autodesk Desktop app.... all as i should have to do is click install. I have no idea what files might be missing.

 

 

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RDAOU
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@vaughn 

 

The Revit installation Files which were used to install Revit on that machine...I have given you the default path ...look there. If it doesn't exist then you need to recreate as described in previous reply.

 

 

 

 

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vaughn
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@RDAOU 

 

PJust can think why previous hotfixes have been fine and do not use disc cleanup / have not moved or deleted install files...?

 

 

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RDAOU
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@vaughn wrote:

@RDAOU 

 

PJust can think why previous hotfixes have been fine and do not use disc cleanup / have not moved or deleted install files...?

 

 


@vaughn 

 

This is a user forum. Therefore, your options are as follows

  1. You can either follow the above given suggestions and try to fix the issue
  2. OR Refer to the link given on Reply one to similar post on the same error code
  3. OR you can file a support ticket and wait for feedback from Autodesk 

 

For other complaints you can email/contact Autodesk Customer service

 

 

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RPTHOMAS108
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Really this post should go in installation and licensing.

 

However you are not alone in this as I'm getting the same issue with that particular hotfix. Having installed many others without an issue.

 

It is looking for something in a temporary location, presumably something it should have downloaded to that temporary location before looking for it. Could be I need to point it elsewhere but I'm not going to start playing guessing games or potentially point it to an older version of something.

 

You can probably download the fix and run it outside desktop manager but you may experience the same, so who knows. I'll just wait for the fix that fixes it. Was kind of concerned it would mess up Revit installation but luckily that didn't happen (I mean what did the other 33% do?, I guess it was rolled back).

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vaughn
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So I have tried to install this hot fix on 3 separate computers and get the same issue. Regardless of the the replies it's a hit fix... I am a user and my job is to hit install.. not figure anything else out. Autodesk the hotfix is screwed... sort it out so I don't have to waste my time please. 

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Thanos603
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The fact that the Revit hotfix is prompting for the original RVT.msi file does not indicate that there is a problem with the installer.  This prompt means that at least one of the Revit installation files has been modified by an application other than Revit.  In this event, the hotfix needs to identify which portion(s) of the Revit installation file have been modified to ensure that these changes are not removed during the installation of the hotfix.  Without this check, Revit hotfixes would end up overwriting information from other applications and negatively impacting their functionality.

 

Please note that this is not new behavior for Revit or other Autodesk products.  The introduction of the new Autodesk installer brought changes to which files were retained after products were originally installed.  These changes were put in place because many customers wanted Autodesk installers to leave less data on their local hard drives after the installation was complete.  Amongst the files that were no longer retained were the original msi files, which is why more individuals are encountering the prompt for the these files.

 

We understand that this is not optimal and we are working to resolve this issue in future releases.  Until then, the best solution is to keep a copy of the original Revit 2022 installer from a browser download available.  This would be similar to retaining the original CD/DVD in years past.  I should also note that you do need the entire Revit 2022 installer and not just the RVT.msi file as the installation first needs to read the msi file and then locate the original version of the file(s) in question.

Tony Michniewicz
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RPTHOMAS108
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@Thanos603  thanks for the clarification.

 

I see the logic regarding the comparison and overwrite to a degree.

 

However essentially you are saying installing via the desktop application means you may not be able to install subsequent hotfixes and we should have instead downloaded the installation files separately anyway and saved them not knowing we would need them later for the hotfix? Sounds like installing via desktop app although convenient is pointless (at least for a single user).

 

As it happens the previous hotfix worked fine for 2022 via desktop application so don't know who has been updating these files since then in terms of it not finding them? Applied updates to 2021 products also since with no issue but I suppose that was done with old installer. 

 

Not sure the DVD analogy holds true: we kept it because it was sent to us. We didn't get it and then have it taken away before being asked to use it. I've made no effort regarding deleting old installation files.

 

The reason I attributed this to installation error is that the dialogue is so generic and unhelpful (it doesn't say any of what you just said).

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vaughn
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@Thanos603  I have to agree with @RPTHOMAS108 all other hotfixes have worked fine including the previous 2022.1 Revit Hotfix which we have installed and are running. If you have made changes to the installer then please change it back.

 

You are asking for me to locate program files... i have no idea what or where to look for these and frankly don't have the time to do this across the 6 computers we have Revit installed on. As a small architectural practice we pay Autodesk a, not inconsiderable, sum of money every year for updates. The point being I click a button to install the updates not spend my time and money searching folders and directories wondering if I have got it right or if I am going to crash the whole system. Come on Autodesk this is your baby... stop fobbing it off on the end user.

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jasonmccool8686
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Tony, I have to agree with the previous points made here. I can charge clients $140/hr for my time, but will Autodesk accept an invoice for the time I spend trying to figure out what the installer is looking for, where I might find it since the program apparently can't find it either, and how to implement the fix? Somehow I doubt it. From my very small amateurish bit of programming, I can sympathize with the update logistics quandary you presented, but this is also an automated install inside the Autodesk App. If I need to go download the original install files from the website, why can't the Autodesk App handle that internally? Either downloading the msi file and figuring out the specific file to look at, or even simply prompting the user with something like "Do you want the app to download the entire install from the website to complete this hotfix? Otherwise, enter an alternate path below." That would at least let the individual user carry on with their work while the app does what it needs to do in the background. Working at a small firm often means wearing multiple hats, and the Autodesk App has been helpful in that I don't have to stop working on my engineering projects to put on my update monkey hat and go around installing updates on everybody's computers at our our small firm, at least for one of the 20 different pieces of software we need. But the workflow you're advocating seems to erase that benefit. Even without the Autodesk App, going through the website still recommends the direct install as the best, fastest option. So... the developer-recommended option can potentially be the worst install option when the (inevitable) hotfix like this comes out. Autodesk can paint this how they want, but I think this is still a program fail in any reasonable user's mind.
Also, I had saved a copy of the Revit 2022 install files to our local area network, and there is an RVT.msi file in there, but when I point the Autodesk App to that file, it gives me the message in the screenshot below. Again, another reason why this really should be program overhead handled internally, because everything on this end looks to me as a user like I've provided the app with what it wanted, but it's still not satisfied.

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jasonmccool8686
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Apparently the issue is that the Revit installer can't recognize our network drive which is not having any problems outside of Revit. This time, instead of copying the path from Windows Explorer to the alternate location the updater asked for, I tried browsing for it and realized it doesn't see anything beyond my local hard drive. Our network drive shows up fine in Windows, and every other program is accessing project files off the network drive just fine. So I copied the RVT.msi file to my hard drive and it recognized it but said it didn't have sufficient privileges for several files. I copied the entire Revit 2022 install folder from our network to my C:\Autodesk folder and tried again, but now it doesn't give me the option of pointing it to the newly copied files (apparently it found them automatically once they were on the hard drive?). Instead it gives me the message below about insufficient privileges.
I just have to reiterate that this is IT type stuff here that the average user really shouldn't have to deal with, and generally won't know how to deal with, and often won't be able to deal with depending on how restrictive their company's IT policies are. Looking at a similar issue in the forum from the 2021 hotfix (https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Uninstal...), the solution provided was for the user to go poking around in the Registry Editor (which probably makes most IT admins cringe) and then doing an 11 step process to get it working. And that's not even the solution for "system or IT administrators"!

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drubinoff
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I'm having the same issue with installing this Hotfix. I'm on two deadlines at the moment and don't have time to put on a computer science hat. 

 

Don't issue hot fixes that don't work. We're a small firm paying Autodesk big money and we don't have an IT person to decode this.

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jasonmccool8686
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OK, I tried installing the CADS Rebar Extension the other day since placing simple rebar has gotten so much harder in Revit now, and ran into errors that their support said were tied to not having this hotfix installed. So I took more time out of my billable hours to deal with this Autodesk bug and find a solution myself. In my previous response with screenshots of error messages, you see that the installer is looking for a dll file in the C:\Autodesk\CF\AdShared\en-US folder. For me, there were 2 other dll files without sufficient privileges, one in that directory and one in the AdShared parent folder. The 3 files were AcAuthEntities24res.dll, AcAxDB24res.dll, and ACSignCore16.dll. But upon reading the error message again, I realized I hadn't seen any "CF" directory in C:\Autodesk. Sure enough, it's not that the installer has insufficient privileges - it's that the hotfix installer is looking for files in nonexistent folders! They exist in C:\Autodesk\Revit_2022_G1_Win_64bit_dlm\x64\RVT\CF\AdShared\en-US, but the installer was looking for them in C:\Autodesk\CF\AdShared\en-US.
After manually creating the folder tree C:\Autodesk\CF\AdShared\en-US, searching for those files and finding them in the Revit 2022 install folder, and copying AcAuthEntities24res.dll and AcAxDB24res.dll into the en-US folder and ACSignCore16.dll into the AdShared folder, then the installer finally installed the hotfix successfully. It still hung up on 33% for quite a while so that I assumed it wasn't going to work again, but then it finally moved on to 100% and completed. Now, versions of the first 2 files were in all of the regional install folders for Italian and Japanese and Spanish and English, and so on, so I used the files from the American folder (en-US); I would guess that anyone having this issue in other regions would need to use the files from the appropriate regional folder (jp for Japanese, fr for French, etc). The third file was common to all regions.

Hope that helps others, and you're welcome, Autodesk. Now where exactly do I send my invoice for my newfound IT skills, Autodesk? 😉

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vaughn
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Thanks for posting this.. I may take another look but given I have 4 computers to fiddle about with not sure whn i am going to get the time.... you should be on Autodesk's payroll!!

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rbacha
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I get the same error message at 33% with all the Revit 2022 Hotfixes. I have also downloaded the files and installed it from a hard drive and the same error happens saying it can't find the Revit.msi file. 

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vaughn
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Get the same error with the 2022.1.2 hotfix as well. just means I'm not installing any of the hotfixes / updates. I'm sure that doesn't matter and as Autodesk mean it to be; after all if it isn't they would sort this out... right?

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RPTHOMAS108
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I'll probably have a go at downloading all the files and doing it that way since that is what people are saying works.

 

One further thing I'm wondering is since 2022.1.2 is now available why is 2022.1.1 still listed in the desktop application? Probably they need to redesign it and when they do it would also be nice if they separate out the hotfixes and version updates (things you are advised to update) from the optional add-ins (Issues Addin etc.).

 

I'll probably create an idea for that when it comes, at the moment it is just a pre-idea. Have to check if someone has already thought about it etc.

 

I thought if I have to have an idea about something as utility (functional rather than attractive) as the Desktop App I should try to only do it once: 

Desktop App Feature Suggestions - Autodesk Community

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