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how to hide Join lines showing in section

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Caed9
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how to hide Join lines showing in section

Hi, Revit community, 

Both of the beams are joined to the floor, Why is the beam on the left showing connection lines?  also, the beam on the right perfectly joined to the wall as well, why left one is having some much struggle to create a smooth join with the floor slab?

 

 

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barthbradley
in reply to: Caed9

I'm going to guess that you never made it to the chapter on "Join Geometry". It's a fascinating chapter -- full of intrigue and subterfuge .  Best Tom Clancy I ever read.  

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martijn_pater
in reply to: Caed9

... same material applied?

Message 4 of 10
Caed9
in reply to: barthbradley

Yeah, in that file I sent I remove a lot of stuff I guess now it can be done. I have the same issue with other elements in the project. I tried switching order but it is just random sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't work. I'm doing a house made up of concrete masonry walls, concrete columns, and beams.  Both beams and columns are flushed in the walls, with the exact same thickness.


For the presentation ( Elevations, sections, and 3D) I want the joins of all the 3 categories invisible because in reality there are not going to be visible, so I have to go full AutoCAD on the linework and make the lines invisible. By doing so I cannot edit the building because if I modify or remove or add another element, the linework is removed so I have to go back and make them invisible.


For a possible data analysis and construction purposes, I want the columns and beams to have the real measurements, which will be subtracted from the measurements and volumes from the wall. 


But apparently, even by joining and switching order, there are some join lines that stay there. So, my question will be, what else is on that chapter to review besides the 3 options of join geometry (join, unjoin, and switch order). I also get the error: One element is completely inside another, when joining the beam to the wall and thus the beam is not reporting a volume, also some columns change the height while joining and others just stay with their normal height with the joins invisible. The join changes the column height and removes the volume of the beam


In the meanwhile, I had to add an unnecessary 1mm finish layer to each side wall’s core in order to hide those lines. It can be less than 1mm because those lines will keep appearing

Also, I followed the steps https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/D... . 

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barthbradley
in reply to: Caed9

 Let's take a look at your file. Post it.  

Message 6 of 10
Caed9
in reply to: barthbradley

there you go, if you check the volume of the joined columns and beams, you will notice some of them don't have volume. 

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barthbradley
in reply to: Caed9

Message 8 of 10
Caed9
in reply to: barthbradley

Thanks, bro!  I had to get rid of the masonry wall material tho, but I guess I can override it as a pattern. 

It will be a good idea if they include the masonry wall material for the joining of concrete elements. 

 

Many thanks, I appreciate it! 

Message 9 of 10
Caed9
in reply to: barthbradley

https://wrw.is/having-problems-while-joining-surfaces/

 

Found this too, Also if the sides are painted with different colors or materials on the surface, Revit will show the join lines regardless if there is the same material on the instance or type and when attempting switch join order, if the element is completely inside the wall, it will not a report volume.

 

At least removing the paint and putting it back later applies the changes globally. Or just making sure to match the paint, I will try doing the paint thing to see the results. I had some paint applied in another model and was having issues I have to remove the paint in order to get clean joins and the desired data. 

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Paul_Kacz1
in reply to: barthbradley

Legend. Thank you

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