How To Design This Column Arch with Curvature?

How To Design This Column Arch with Curvature?

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How To Design This Column Arch with Curvature?

Anonymous
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I'm halfway with designing this column, except I'm having trouble with the curvature of the column archs. Can this only be done using a structural-based program? Would be awesome to design this in Revit. Could someone mimic this and lead me through the steps?

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Viveka_CD
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Hi @Anonymous

 

This Revit Structure tutorial shows how to place a slanted structural column in your architectural drawing and change the height and angle.

 

Meanwhile, while I do some testing on my own, let's throw out this open challenge to the community to mimic this design.

 

Regards,

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Viveka_CD
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@Anonymous Also check out this post HERE by @Alfredo_Medina

 

Some of the suggested tips are - design by sweep profile, beam by sketch process etc. 

 

Regards,

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I created this with the 'blend' tool. Yet it seems curvature isn't an option. 

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Kimtaurus
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Try modelling this with a conceptual mass.

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Sahay_R
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Off the top of my head - I would split the triangle into half,

                                       model the column as a Sweep,

                                       constrain with parameters,

                                       nest into a structural framing family,

                                       associate parameters

                                       and mirror. 

 

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The beam would need to be a separate entity, because Revit does not like curves in two directions. Maybe a modeled in place Sweep going all around the building?


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Kimtaurus
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Here's an example of a conceptual mass.

It's not exactly how yours looks, but you'll get an idea of how it's modelled.

Y-column.JPG

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I think it can be done in 3 pieces, like this: 

  • one solid by sweep on the left, "A".
  • one (mirrored) solid by sweep on the right, "B".
  • one solid by blend at the bottom, "C".

2017-11-29_11-14-11.jpg

 

 

 

For making "A", you need a path with the curves and angles, and a profile, something like this:

 

 

 

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For making "C", you need to draw boundaries for bottom and top, something like this:

 

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Then,  define category, material, load the family into a project, repeat it, add beams, etc...

 

 

 

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Sahay_R
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@Kimtaurus can you give idiot-proof directions please?

 

@Alfredo_Medina awesome!


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Kimtaurus
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1. Draw reference lines for the profile to sweep along.

2. Draw the profile on the reference plane that's at the end of the reference line.

3. Copy-mirror the sweep

4. Add voids to cut away the top and bottom to get horizontal endings.

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@Kimtaurus - So the procedure is the same in the conceptual modeling environment?


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Kimtaurus
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For not to complex shapes it is similar

 

When the the sweep has more than 2 profiles, conceptual mass (or adaptive components) work better. You can add profiles to the mass/sweep and edit them individually.

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Viveka_CD
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Wow- this is an interesting thread! Thanks for the cool tips and illustrations @Alfredo_Medina@Sahay_R and @Kimtaurus

 

We will be having more open challenges for complex modeling and see how we can best use Revit tools to achieve this.

 

Best Regards,