How to add a land in front of the 1st step #stairs

[architecwang]

I'm a beginner of the revit,   in this project, here, I'm trying to add land in front of the 1st step to keep stairs as a whole instead of extending the floor to the step (because the land has the same properties and belongs to the stair family, I think).

Really appreciate it, if anyone can help to fix this problem 🙏

[ToanDN]

Create a floor. 

[architecwang]

I understand, but I'm trying to make construction logic clearer. so, it just can add a land on the top floor, and just can not add a land on the Ground floor/1st floor, right?

[RDAOU · Accepted solution]

@architecwang 

You can surely use a floor or model in place but your thinking is right in principle (why not in the stair)..however, landings in Revit cannot be below the base level of the stair. To add a landing at the bottom of the stair, you need to offset its base and to create a new landing type with X" thickness to suit the condition with the slab it connects to. (ie: a different type for different conditions/stages)

       

[architecwang]

thank u for ur understanding. it will work well in the concept design. For construction drawings, however,  most of the time they are not the same. Thank you for your help I just used component tool to create a new one. it's really frustrating for wasting time on these tricks.

[RDAOU]

@architecwang 

Whether they stay the same or change from design to construction, I do not see how it makes any difference. You asked how does it work in stairs tool and the answer was

1. Apply the proper offsets to the stair 
2. And create the proper landing type (ie: a system family/component) which could bea type for design and another for construction!

To work with any software one needs to learn how to use that software properly, that is not a waste of time but an investment in one's self and his/her skills. No?

[architecwang]

It has a difference! like this project when it turns out to be construction. Depending on the structural calculation, it should be drawn like this. the land height does not equal the riser nor the floor. I just think the Revit sometimes make things even more complicated .

[RDAOU]

@architecwang 

Not really it is not that complicated... the landing doesn't really need to be the height of the riser. It can be less and can be more (the riser height was an example). See Image below

However, in Revit the drop beam is not part of the landing, it is a separate component

[architecwang]

that is what I exactly want,  can u teach me how to make it different? I can't make the 1st steps different from the others. the landing height was locked no matter how I changed it