HELP! Rotated elevation tags

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone can help me out with a quirky issue i'm having with eleation tags in a project. As you can see from the attached image, the text inside the callout is rotating along with the angle of the elevation. Any ideas? for whate it's worth, the plan view this tag is in was creating by placing a callout in a working view oriented to true north, and then rotated to get a 90 degree orientation. I have a feeling this may be at the heart of the issue.

Hopefully that made sense, please let me know if you have any thoughts.

Thanks!

Jac

PS, the sheet naming, as evidenced by the tag in the image, is another painful discussion I've been having with the project lead. If anyone has a tip for how to get the tag to only show the last 4 digits, I'd be in their debt.

[CoreyDaun]

Hi Jac,

I have been unable to reproduce this issue - can you either post a sample Project File or describe the exact step-by-step process you followed to get this to happen?

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laura2279 wrote:

"PS, the sheet naming, as evidenced by the tag in the image, is another painful discussion I've been having with the project lead. If anyone has a tip for how to get the tag to only show the last 4 digits, I'd be in their debt."

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Is the reference Sheet Number actually "LL-A2-SB-A301"? If so, then there is no way to have the Tag report only a portion of that value. As long as all of that data in included in the "Sheet Number" parameter, then there is no solution.

[CADiva]

I would love to have an answer to this as well.  For now, I'm creating "sections" since the elevations I need on this project are detail elevations anyway. (Like this image, my building elevation callouts look just like the section callouts with the circle, not the default square.)

[kylea_lrk]

Can you post the elevation tag family to review? I had a similar issue when developing our elevation tags to mimic the section tags.

You might also check to make sure the Fixed Rotation Parameter is unchecked when selecting the Label in the Family (see image).  This will allow the text to rotate with the Elevation Marker.

[CADiva]

Ok, so I've attached a sample file, the elevation tag family and an image of the rotated view with a few notes.

I'm hoping I can figure this out by reverse engineering the section family 'cause it works ... maybe I'll have time to play with that tomorrow.

[bill_allen]

Was there ever a solution to this?  I'm having the exact same problem.  I've tried a couple different things including creating markers at the angle of the building.  No dice.  Any one know how to resolve?

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

Don't use the Rotation on Sheet. Rotate your viewport directly, or associate it with a scope box and rotate the scope box.

[bill_allen]

Worked!  Thanks ToanDN!

[thurst]

I'm having a similar issue.  I have two plans of same floor, one overall and one enlarged.  The enlarged plan is rotated 90 degrees using scope box.

The elevation tags look perfect on overall plans but the tags for the enlarged plans are rotated.

I've gone through the families and can't identiy where this is controlled.

This is the overall plan:

 This is the enlarged plan using a rotated scope box:

[ToanDN]

Can you upload that tag family?

[Anonymous]

I'm having this exact problem!! Since thurst has not uploaded their family, here is my own.

Thanks in advance!

[ToanDN]

Try these.  One is for when you rotate the view crop region up to 90 degree.  The flip one is for more than 90 degree rotation to fix the sheet number/detail number flip.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the response, ToanDN. Is there anyway to have the text and divider line read right side up, with the detail # on top, and the sheet # on bottom like it normally would read without the view rotation? Like the image attached?

Thank you!

[ToanDN]

Unfortunately that does not work for elevation tags, only section tags.

[MichaelWarwick7522 · Accepted solution]

This thread helped me sort out the elevation symbols for my company, to fix the detail # over sheet # issue as well as allow the symbols to be flat in 90° rotated views (rotated via a scope box) I created 4 sets of detail and sheet in the family, and set visibility controlled by a set of formulas:

[Anonymous]

Michael, given that I cannot figure away to get instance parameter control in the elevation mark family, is the only way to create multiple elevation families, ie one for each direction?

[MichaelWarwick7522]

Philip,

You don't need separate families, just several types. Parameters need to be type not instance and you need to create a type for each of the elevation tag variants and matching types for the elevations. In your screenshot the parameter 'Elevation Tag' under Graphics selects the tag family and type (types are hidden for families with only one type and where the type name = family name).

But that is only for rotated text, for the arrows follow the pattern of the built in ones as there is some hard coded functionality which controls which arrows are displayed.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Michael. Sorry, I meant types. So I have a different elevation type created for each direction (as shown in the screen shot) and those are correctly coordinated with the corresponding elevation tags for each direction. And all is functioning great! Couldn't have done it without your parameters. I did set it all up as instance parameters, but as far as I can tell it doesn't make a difference because there is no place within the Revit project that the parameters can be adjusted (only within the Family types editor). I was hoping there was a more elegant solution, wherein I could just toggle an instance parameter to flip/rotate each elevation as I selected. That would allow for just one family type. At any rate, it still works, and considering these get set up once in a project, there is really no time difference to either method. Thanks again.

[zach_wagoner]

In order to get the family to work you need to have the following parameters set so that the text stays in proper orientation:

1. Keep Readable turned off.

2. Fixed Rotation Turned off.

Once that is set you need a Elevation Pointer Family at each angle that your elevations are going to be set too. See the attached images. Revit will then pick up the proper pointer for the elevation you are trying to create. If you really want to you can add 360 elevation pointers and have it set for just about any situation you will run across.

[martijn_pater · Accepted solution]

Thought this (known) issue was resolved in the Revit 2021 upgrade...

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2021/EN...