Get family information straight to sheet using shared parameters?

[Naumanen]

Hi all. This is my first post so I apologize in advance if this is in a wrong section of this forum. 

I'm trying to make a door card out of every door type in our project. I'm trying to avoid doing schedules, because it always clutters the project browser (crappy excuse, I know). Instead of making a schedule out of every door type, I would like to just add shared parameters straight to the sheet and tell Revit to search for these parameters from a certain door. Basically I, or someone else, could write the information straight to the sheet and it would automatically update to the selected door. Is this possible in any way without schedules?

To clarify, I have attached a picture. In this picture are the needed information and next to them would be the shared parameters for every type of information. I couldn't get it to work and I'm starting to believe that this is not possible at all. It seems that there is no way to tell Revit to search this parameter only from a certain family type, for example, from a door. But I think people here are much wiser than me and someone might have a workaround or an easy solution. 

[Mirko.Jurcevic]

You can't edit information directly on the sheet if that information (parameter) is something that sheet can display natively (project information, titleblock information, sheet view information).

If you need to write something specific to doors (or whichever family), then create specific schedule (filtered and grouped in the right way and edit there).

Or edit every instance or type of the doors in the model by clicking on them.

Or use Dynamo to pull information from excel sheet (or enter directly into Dynamo editor) so it can be written into doors or other specific families.

Or programming custom add-in with Revit API can do the trick as well.

[Naumanen]

Okay, so it would seem like my best option is to create a schedule. Is there any way to make a schedule vertical? I mean I would like to format the schedule in a way which would put all the headings on op of each other instead of making them side by side? Since I only have one door type per door card with lots of parameters it would make the schedule very wide. 

Or can I make the headers and fields to generate vertical text and then turn it 90 degrees on sheet? I found a way to flip the header text, but the text in the field I was unable to flip. 

[martijn_pater]

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@Naumanen wrote:

I'm trying to make a door card out of every door type in our project. I'm trying to avoid doing schedules, because it always clutters the project browser (crappy excuse, I know).

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Create a project parameter(/s) for schedule category and set up your project browser organisation to sort your schedules accordingly...

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Instead of making a schedule out of every door type, I would like to just add shared parameters straight to the sheet and tell Revit to search for these parameters from a certain door. Basically I, or someone else, could write the information straight to the sheet and it would automatically update to the selected door. Is this possible in any way without schedules

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Why without schedules, it's what they're for...

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To clarify, I have attached a picture. In this picture are the needed information and next to them would be the shared parameters for every type of information. I couldn't get it to work and I'm starting to believe that this is not possible at all. It seems that there is no way to tell Revit to search this parameter only from a certain family type, for example, from a door. But I think people here are much wiser than me and someone might have a workaround or an easy solution. 

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Not entirely sure, perhaps you need a multi-category material takeoff schedule and then sort by some parameter which to schedule... ie. Family and Type/Material/Count (itemize every instance unchecked) sort of does what you're sketching there...

[Naumanen]

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@martijn_pater wrote:

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Why without schedules, it's what they're for...

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Thanks for the reply.

Some people at our office are quite new to Revit. I myself have only a few years of experience with this program. Schedules are something that really scares some of the employees. They are somewhat hard to wrap your mind around, but after you get the basic idea, they are very logical. My aim was to make Revit seem more user friendly and not so scary by removing the schedules out of the equation. 

Also the tools for editing the appearance of a schedule are very limited. It seems that it is not possible to have a schedule with the parameters or headers going from top to bottom. As far as I know they only go from left to right which is very disappointing. In my case I really needed to have all the parameters going from top to bottom to get that schedule to fit on a sheet. 

I am seriously considering just writing all this information by hand 😄 But that would be lots of manual work and a huge step backwards. 

[martijn_pater]

Well, maybe share a file with what/how you want to schedule it?