Generating PDF's - Best Method - Raster Vs Vector vs Sometihng else

[dtpeter2901]

I'm still tyring to figure out what this is still an issue. 

I'd like to be able to print all of my sheets with one method.

When I Generate pdfs's using bluebeam (same results with others pdf writers) I end up loosing linework for modeled objects.

When I generate them using Raster, I get all the linework, but it looks like junk.  (mainly becuase it's raster)

In prior versions, (pre 2016) I had results that weren't good, but were acceptable.

With 2016, they are no longer acceptable. 

So what's the best method for creating pdfs.

So I'm stuck with 2 bad options.  Either run the risk of randomly loosing information or prints that look like junk.

Thanks in advance.

[RDAOU]

@dtpeter2901

What I've listed are some of many reasons which can screw up a PDF vector/raster print...And no doubt that others could be experiencing same or similar issues. However; what I meant to say; if it was a glitch and/or bug we would be all experiencing/having it.

When you test with the same software; same updates/patches and service pack and you find 1 users out of 10 having no issues what SO ever with PDF vector printing; it means that the problem lies within the setup or configeration of the other 9 users. trying it out on your laptop then your desktop doesn't narrow down the odds/probability.

Thats why I suggested that you try printing somewhere else...totally different environment (printshop, a colleage from another office or a friend who has/uses Revit) even suggested that you can crop or replicate the issue in a new file and post it so we may test it for you!!!

It cannot be that hard and troublesome if you are really seeking a solution...

[Keith_Wilkinson]

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@RDAOU wrote:

It cannot be that hard and troublesome if you are really seeking a solution...

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Therein lies the question I think... 

[dtpeter2901]

I'm so glad I posted that question here.  This is some of the best insight I've ever been given.  None of it solves the problem, but now I know where to look.  Badk at the software I'm using.

No one else has seemed to crack that answer either.  It appears the answer is just deal with it.

Unlike the NSA I don't have a Million dollars to try to test the issues with every possible combination of settings within Window and every configuration of a workstation, graphics card, PDF writer and Drivers.

The example that was provided is the same result I get on about 95% of my drawings.  It's the other 5% that no one seems to be able to figure out.

Just the like the First Step in AA, it's Admitting that you have a problem.  That's the first step.

I've listed several other posts, all of which have no solution other than print via Raster. 

I'd be fine printing with 95% accuracy if somoene else would like to pick up the change order for the other 5%.

Again, I've only seen the problem on sheets where there's a lot of Linework or views to compile.

I've sovled it before by duming down the family so only a symbolic line shows up, but it's really hard to do that with system families.

Myself and others have been trying to solve the issue, but the answer always seems to be the same.

[RDAOU]

@Keith_Wilkinson and there the answer...only in words

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dtpeter2901 wrote:

I'm so glad I posted that question here.  This is some of the best insight I've ever been given.  None of it solves the problem, but now I know where to look.  Badk at the software I'm using.

No one else has seemed to crack that answer either.  It appears the answer is just deal with it.

Unlike the NSA I don't have a Million dollars to try to test the issues with every possible combination of settings within Window and every configuration of a workstation, graphics card, PDF writer and Drivers.

The example that was provided is the same result I get on about 95% of my drawings.  It's the other 5% that no one seems to be able to figure out.

Just the like the First Step in AA, it's Admitting that you have a problem.  That's the first step.

I've listed several other posts, all of which have no solution other than print via Raster. 

I'd be fine printing with 95% accuracy if somoene else would like to pick up the change order for the other 5%.

Again, I've only seen the problem on sheets where there's a lot of Linework or views to compile.

I've sovled it before by duming down the family so only a symbolic line shows up, but it's really hard to do that with system families.

Myself and others have been trying to solve the issue, but the answer always seems to be the same.

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@dtpeter2901 

SO FAR you have spent on this post at least 1-2 hours typing, complaining and explaining...IF you really were seeking an solution it would have taken you less than 3 mins to crop a room out of a troublesome project and paste it in clean file to upload here so that others (Experts/Users or even an Autodesk Employee) can try and help you check, find a solution or at least narrow down the issue to something other than assumptions. If you are not willing to share something you are deffinitly not going to receive anything!

So here is the your answer: You gotta live with what you got mate...there is no solution for your issue

It's been pleasant chatting ...Unsubscribing from this post

[dtpeter2901]

With 90 Links in the model and Required Permissions from Certain Entities, I can't simply "Cut a room and paste in a clean model".
Screen shots are all I can do.
Thanks for your help!

[Keith_Wilkinson]

So you have a problem that you can't recreate at will then?  As I said right back at the beginning if you can't post something helping you find a solution is very difficult, if not impossible.  I'm not really sure what else you want from folk here.

It's a bit like phoning up the garage and saying that every so often your car just stops working and asking what the problem is.  The obvious response would be 'have you put petrol in it?' to which you respond 'yes'.  Okay then can you bring your car in?  No... makes it kinda hard to fix.

Bottomline, if you can recreate the problem we can help you fix it.  If you can't then you'll need to figure it out yourself.

[lmpka]

Stumbled across this thread while researching another problem.  We have never been able to get vector printing to work right. But every once in a while, we give it another try.  Still not working in Revit2019.

We'd like to use Vector processing for faster speeds, smaller files, and higher quality.

Here's a revit file with a couple examples and the resulting PDFs.  The Raster.pdf displays as intended.  The Vector.pdf has problems.

In this case we used Bluebeam, but we've also used Adobe in the past.  Same results on windows 7, 10.  Same results no matter the graphics cards from workstation to game cards. Never seen it work right since Revit 2011. 😞

[DavidsDesk]

Printing in raster washes out line weights so I tried printing as both raster and vector and then in Acrobat overlay the vector copy as a watermark at 100%