Folded Building

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Folded Building

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Hi - I'm an architect and have always worked in a combination of Autocad and Sketchup. I have modelled an angular building very similar to the one linked below in Sketchup and want to make the transition to Revit.

http://www.e-architect.co.uk/london/st-pauls-information-centre

I've been really struggling. Spent the last week trying different methods such as importing the Sketchup model and it not appearing in sections and plans, importing and applying walls / roofs - it not joining properly due to the severe angles and being able to use anything but basic wall types, changing the Sketchup to a curtain wall and therefore having very thin walls / no internal skin (and messy joins at the edges) and trying to rebuild in Revit but not being able to snap to the Sketchup in 3D (I can snap to some not all - tried using reference lines but no dice).

I have four bespoke buildings to model with this type of angular, metal clad form with glazed frontages and I've barely been able to model 1.

Can anyone help, please?
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L.Maas
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Probably others can be of better assistance. But to get you started. I think you will have to start of with a conceptual mass. After creating the conceptual mass you can divide the surface and add curtain panels (pattern based). However this is not the most easy set of tools in Revit.

 

A quick out of hand effort of a conceptual mass:

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Louis

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constantin.stroescu
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  • one method could be using Conceptual Mass , as Luis mentioned in his post.
  • Another method could be using a Roof by Footprint (without Define Slope) and then Modify Subelement > Add Split Lines - and move the Vertices to the desired height. You can use Reference Planes as guides and elevation/section views of imported elements as bakground and helpers when you make in place the the vertices.

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Constantin Stroescu

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Anonymous
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Thank you so much for the response - just wondered if you could give me a step by step on how you made the conceptual mass? What you've produced looks great.

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Anonymous
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Wow - thanks for the video! This looks promising. I'll give it a go.

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Keith_Wilkinson
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If you are comfortable with Sketchup you migth find FormIt a good option - I'm pretty sure you can take your concept models from there and import them into Revit.  I can't comment on the quality of the conversion but migth be worth looking at.

 

HTH

 

K.



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L.Maas
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Started with a box.

Drawn an additional diagonal edge on the long side of the box 

Then I started pushing/pulling edges and faces.

Added a void to cut out internal part.

Mirrored (Left/Right) So that Left and right side are symmetrical.

Louis

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constantin.stroescu
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if you have the 3d volume made in another software , you could try the following method ( it works for entities imported from AutoCAD)

  • do not import the entity into Project, but into a Conceptual Mass Family , and then load it into the project....where you can apply Floor by Face or Roof by Face
  • You have to try if it works for items imported from other softwares....

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and for a more complicated shape: 

Constantin Stroescu

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constantin.stroescu
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another way to use Conceptual Mass beside that exposed by Louis would be using Reference Points .

This method will allow use of parameters as can be seen in my following two screencast.

In the first screencast I've shown only one face to see how parameters work....In the second one I've added another face. 

What I've shown using Revit (parametric) , would be much more suitable if using Dynamo...

 

 

 

 
 

 

Constantin Stroescu

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