Family Component Sizes in Different Views

[cakir.omertr]

Hello,

My name is Ömer.

I have a question about used families in section view and detail view sizes. For example, I want a bigger level head or fill pattern in detail and smaller in section due to the scale. I use 1:5 or 1:10 scale in detail, 1:100 or 1:50 in sections.

I created different sized level heads but if change it with 8mm head in detail, Revit also changes the level head in section view with 8mm, which is too big, I want around 2-3mm. Same problem with fill patterns. I don't know how to separately use these families. I'm trying to learn Revit by myself, so I don't have much user experience with this. I'm trying to practice detailing. (I'm currently using Revit Student Version 2021)

Kind regards.

[lucdoucet_msdl]

@cakir.omertr 

I’ve used the following two methods in projects according to the complexity/use:

1. Presentation vs Working dwg

Two files, a model project file A and and a presentation projet file B. A has the large more technical looking level marker and B has a more compact and graphically pleasing level marker.  Project A is linked into B strictly for formatting and printing of views and sheets. Local levels and grid axis are then copy monitored from A to B. Downside: 2 files, tagging to linked project and updating copy monitored levels. 

2. One file

Create a spot elevation tag for the smaller version of the level market. In a view that cuts the levels, turn off the level markers at each end of the levels. Tag and place the spot elevation markers to the levels. Downside : you need to manually adjust the tags when levels change.

Good luck,

-luc

[lucdoucet_msdl]

@cakir.omertr 

Same problem with fill patterns. I don't know how to separately use these families.

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Different solutions for a similarly stated problem.

I suggest you look into the view detail level controls that the full regions have in your detail families.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/EN...

You will need to create two versions of each fill pattern according to the detail level (ex: STEEL_fine and STEEL_coarse = low detail). Duplicate the fill regions in your families and assign the visibility of these to display according to the view detail level.

-luc

[barthbradley]

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@cakir.omertr wrote:

I created different sized level heads but if change it with 8mm head in detail, Revit also changes the level head in section view with 8mm, which is too big, I want around 2-3mm.

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By the way I read it, it sounds like you are not creating additional Head Types, but instead are overwriting an existing Head Types.   

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2020/EN...

[lucdoucet_msdl]

@barthbradley 

Unless I’m missing something, a revit project file can have only one level head marker at a time for all level instances, contrary to section markers that can be assign to different section types. The challenge as I understand it, is to able to show different level heads for separate views in the same project.

Not sure why your revit help reference links to section markers.

Respectfully,

-luc 

[barthbradley]

You think I read it wrong?  Could be.  I did preface my comment with: "By the way I read it...".  

[ToanDN]

It is doable using two sets of levels / grids, of different types. One set labeled with the original Name and the other with an Unicode character added the the original Name so that they appear the same in drawings but identified differently.

However, I would recommend against this kind of practices. Annotations are supposed to be the same size regardless of scale so that when you place views of different scales on a sheet they don't look like enlarged/reduced photocopies pieced together.