extend wall layers horizontally

extend wall layers horizontally

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extend wall layers horizontally

Gangula2
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Is there a way to extend wall layers horizontally. After modifying the wall structure in the edit type dialogue box, the layers can be edited vertically. But I wanna extend them horizontally too. Is it possible

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dzanta
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can you clarify your request?

 

are you wanting to add layers to a wall when viewing within type properties window via plan view?

are you wanting to add layers to a wall when viewing within type properties window via section view?

 

can you sketch what you want to achieve?


Dzan Ta, AEE, ASM, ACI.

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This is what I would like to achieve in Revit. Adding an architectural column and joining it with wall doesn't help as the hatch pattern also changes to the wall pattern. I want the hatch pattern of wall to be crossed and of column to be solid

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dzanta
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you mean like this?


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dzanta
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i used a structural concrete column instead of an architectural one.


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But I guess you've taken the wall all over to the end of the column. I would like to stop the wall and the intersection of wall & column and then want the external plaster layers alone to extend all the way to the end
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tamas_badics
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For a one-off solution, you can use the "Create Parts" tool on the wall whose layers you want to extend horizontally. Then each layer becomes a proper 3D "Part" element that can be extended by selecting the "Show Shape Handles" parameter on it.

 

See Editing Part Geometry



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Anonymous
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At present, with Revit unable to extend wall layer lines horizontally, (in a similar manner to the, still limited, way you can vertically) your options are:

 

Edit the 'Cut Profile' (Views>Graphics) - but this is only a 2D affect, your walls will remain as modelled in views where you have/can not employ this technique

 

Employ Parts (if you're so way inclined)

 

Model the layers as (3, maybe more) seperate walls.

 

 

 

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Gangula2
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Yeah, I know this method, but I want the layers to be in a group like in a single selectable wall not divided into parts.
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Gary_J_Orr
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The OP on this one has touched upon a major issue that has been present in Revit since day one, and been asked for since by pretty much all users (there are many workarounds for this scenario or that but Adesk has simply not addressed the underlying issue).

 

This should be addressed as it is an underlying and fundamental issue. We, the designers, architects, engineers, and draftspersons, should be able to control the start and end points of walls, and each of their components... not a program (or a group of programmers, as good as they may be) that doesn't understand just how important it is to show where one layer of sheathing meets another. It matters for fire rated partitions joining non rated partitions, for metal stud walls coming into contact with cmu/brick cavity walls, and many other scenarios. Walls should also respect the end points that we place instead of automatically adjusting them to the wall centerline (this throws off calculations based on length and makes it very annoying when adjusting wall locations and lengths). There simply aren't enough levels of priority to define it all programmatically from within the type, and even if more were added (similar to another Autodesk program that is no longer called BIM, but is anyway) it can be a management nightmare.

 

The "Wall Joins" command is a joke, and, even if it does manage to run across a solution (after several pushes of the "next", I've even been warned that there were "### possible solutions... procede?" on some complex scenarios) it will often lose that solution upon modifying one of the walls that it addresses.

 

Just give us an option to turn on grips for individual layers (both in plan and in section/elevation views) and stop adjusting our endpoints, we put them where we did for a reason...

 

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Gary J. Orr
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