Exit Signs

[twallVCXPH]

I loaded an exit sign from the Autodesk Family.  It is fine except it only attaches to a ceiling.  I have a warehouse with no ceiling.  Personally it amazes me that there is no wall mounted exit signs already in the system.  

How can I put exit signs on my plans where there are no ceilings?  

[barthbradley]

Host it to a NAMED Ref. Plane WORK PLANE. If the family doesn't have that ability, create a Ceiling for it and hide the Ceiling in the View. Treat it as you would treat a Ref. Plane or any reference element

[twallVCXPH]

There are so many things in Revit....tiny details that in reality aren't even typically shown on construction drawings.  Amazing that there appears to be a single exit sign in the system.  This is not an uncommon thing.  There SHOULD be wall-mounted, ceiling-mounted, column-mounted, high-ceiling pendant mounted, two-faced, exit-emergency light combinations.  😞 

[barthbradley]

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@twallVCXPH wrote:

 There SHOULD be wall-mounted, ceiling-mounted, column-mounted, high-ceiling pendant mounted, two-faced, exit-emergency light combinations.  😞 

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There are.  Go to BIMObject or Google for one. 

...you can also create one yourself. The world is your oyster.  😉 

[RSomppi]

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@twallVCXPH wrote:

There SHOULD be wall-mounted, ceiling-mounted, column-mounted, high-ceiling pendant mounted, two-faced, exit-emergency light combinations.  😞 

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The Revit libraries are anything but all inclusive. That would be quite the undertaking. While they are quite extensive, they are only meant as examples of what can be done. A lot of places don't even use the out of the box families because they are not suitable for their needs. They either obtain suitable families from 3rd parties or custom make them.

[Mike.FORM]

Does nobody ever use the unpainted or painted exposed structure basic ceiling types?

They can host items and they let you tag that a painted structure or not.

[RSomppi]

Not sure how that would help with wall mounted exit signs.

[Mike.FORM]

Just giving the OP an option to use the ceiling mounted sign if that's what he wants.
Can have the exposed structure ceiling at the height of u/s of structure so he can host the sign.

[RSomppi]

He could just as easily get a wall mounted family as the ceiling mounted one is not what he needs.

[syman2000]

You know you can remove the host from the ceiling. All you have to do is right click and edit the family

In the family editor, edit the ceiling and tie it to default elevation parameter

Set the default elevation to 0 and Revit will tell you to delete the ceiling

Once the ceiling is removed, your family is now non-hosted. Now you can place the exit sign without having any host.

[Mike.FORM]

@syman2000 that is an interesting way to force Revit to delete the host.

Too bad it doesn't let you do the same thing for wall mounted families.

Edit: I just tried this in a ceiling hosted light family. realized you have to have the double-click option for sketched element set to edit element. I had that UI setting as edit type.

[barthbradley]

Just go to BIMObject and search for Exit Signs. '

Here's a Revit Family I just now downloaded from BIMObject. You can mount up, down, sideways and always ... and forever.  (Lionel Richie). 

[twallVCXPH]

I appreciate all the comments.  I'm pretty new to Revit, just a year.  One of my frustrations is having to load families to get items rather than having them already in the program.  Learning to live with that but when I see there are no less than six options for Occupancy Sensors but only ONE exit sign it doesn't make sense.  To me Exit Signs are more common than occ sensors.

Having things that must be connected to a "host" is also frustrating.  I'm going to try un-hosting.  Thanks for that.

I know there are plenty of third party things to load in but why should I have to do that when commonly used things should already be in the program.  Sorry for the rant.  Again, thanks for all the comments.

[RSomppi]

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@twallVCXPH wrote:

I know there are plenty of third party things to load in but why should I have to do that when commonly used things should already be in the program.  Sorry for the rant.  Again, thanks for all the comments.

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I already explained that. The included families, while can get you close depending on your needs, could never be enough for everyone's needs and, depending on your libraries locale, may be lacking or including content that other locales libraries contain. Revit has never been recognized as being all inclusive when it comes to content by any stretch of the imagination. The included content has always been meant as an example of what can be done and can be altered to suit. Basically, everyone has to be able to create content of some sort or have it provided by third parties.

[barthbradley]

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@twallVCXPH wrote:

I know there are plenty of third party things to load in but why should I have to do that when commonly used things should already be in the program. 

Revit Families -- RFAs --are NOT Third-Party Content. Nor are RFAs built by another person Third-Party Content. They're just RFAs that you don't have to build yourself.  Hooray!!! 

[RSomppi]

@barthbradley wrote:

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Revit Families -- RFAs --are NOT Third-Party Content. Nor are RFAs built by another person Third-Party Content. They're just RFAs that you don't have to build yourself.  Hooray!!! 

Don't be fooled by the post above.

[curtisridenour]

there you go.

[barthbradley]

@RSomppi, you missed the point, but thanks for playing. 

[barthbradley]

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@barthbradley wrote:

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@twallVCXPH wrote:

I know there are plenty of third party things to load in but why should I have to do that when commonly used things should already be in the program. 

Revit Families -- RFAs --are NOT Third-Party Content. Nor are RFAs built by another person Third-Party Content. They're just RFAs that you don't have to build yourself.  Hooray!!! 

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Since this post of mine came back to me with red-lines, let me make corrections and resubmit. 

Revit Families -- RFAs --are NOT Third-Party "things", as you characterized them. Nor are RFAs built by another person Third-Party "things". They're just RFAs that you don't have to build yourself.  Hooray!!!  

@twallVCXPH: If your frustration with Revit is that the stock Content Library and Project Templates are not all-inclusive of every single "thing" that you need for your job, then add “things” to it as you go along – like we all do.  You can add “things” to your warehouse of “things” stored offsite (e.g. Content Library) and/or, you can add “things” to the toolbox (e.g. Project Template) that you bring to every job. You can even have job-specific toolboxes. 

Help | Project Templates | Autodesk

P.S. the RFAs in Revit’s stock Content Library and Project Templates are “third-party content” if we go by the definition posted above. My initial read was that you meant third-party as a “thing” that was not the “real thing”. Kind of like the difference between Coke and Pepsi.  I stand corrected, if need be.