Electrical labels vs room labels

[yes_and_no]

The OTB electrical outlet came with an electrical label that allows you to create a different outlet type with different label text ON SPOT, with just 3 steps (right click, create different type, edit label text, done) inside project file.

The room tag came with labels that you have to edit family, create different label, make it y/n parameter, make a type, check the y/n interference, save and load back to project file, and select what you just created...Many steps.

For a good reason we want to add more info to the room tag, independently from room parameters, AND has the convenience of said electrical label (3 step creation).

I m sure it can be done. Just need some help here, anyone ?

(Yes, I know they are different categories, that s why I ask).

[barthbradley]

Hard to follow. Can you post some pix to illustrate what you are talking about? 

[RobRocks]

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@yes_and_no wrote:

For a good reason we want to add more info to the room tag, independently from room parameters,

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What is that reason? It's a manual process and seems non-BIM, unlike the outlet. There may be better ways.

[yes_and_no]

There are other way, of course, like adding text notes.

By adding this info to room tag type, we can save such info for future project OR when doing project setting transfer that info will be carried over, (not to mention the said 3 step convenience)

[RobRocks]

What is the information that you are adding that requires you to create more types?

[yes_and_no]

This is outlet with label HVAC

Edit type, duplicate, give new label text "test"., voila.

I wd like the same convenience to room tag label. Besides room area, finish, etc. I can instantly add new type with label that read "no BIM work", for example.

[RobRocks]

That sounds like an instance parameter that could be added to the room tag without a new type. Once added it will be available in a drop down list in the properties. As more values are added they become available in the drop down lust.

[Toan_RLA]

There is no difference.  What you are describing is instance parameters tied to Electrical Outlet family, and added to Electrical Outlet Tag family as labels.  You do similar for Rooms and Room Tag family: add instance shared parameters to Rooms category under project parameters; add the same shared parameters to Room tag family as labels.  Then, you can click on a Room tag in the project and enter information.

[yes_and_no]

I tried. Must be misstep somewhere.
Can you do a step by step instruction ?

[RobRocks]

You're comparing apples and oranges, model elements and tags. Tags pull information from the elements that they are tagging. The room tag should be pulling information from the room. That's the way Revit works. I don't think you can add text to a label that will change by type without some sort of convoluted workaround. There are better ways to do this but they are totally reliant on what you are truly trying to accomplish. A room type that needs a No BIM work label sounds like a ambiguous example rather than the true purpose. That sounds more like scope information which is usually handled in other ways but you stated that you wanted to be able to add new types. A real explanation of the information that you want to convey would be appropriate if you want suggestions for alternative solutions without using a tag.

[Toan_RLA · Accepted solution]

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@yes_and_no wrote:
I tried. Must be misstep somewhere.
Can you do a step by step instruction ?

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- create share parameters in shared parameters text file

- add shared parameters to project instance parameters, assign to Rooms category

- add labels in room tag family and load the shared parameters above to the labels

- load room tag family in project

[yes_and_no]

Perfect

[RobRocks]

I have a feeling that you will be back about this.