Dumb Question: How do you override System Panel graphics for curtain walls?

[cwinchester.hmc]

This should be easy, but here goes my stupid question: Why don't system panels in a curtain wall respond to graphic overrides applied to curtain panels in visibility graphics? It appears custom curtain panels do, but Revit disallows this to be applied to system panels (for which no category is provided in v/g). Also, phase filters do not apply to this case either. Hopefully I haven't just found another glitch. Thanks in advance.

[barthbradley]

Huh? What do you mean?

....maybe you are dealing with another override acting on the category.  

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/EN...

[cwinchester.hmc]

@barthbradley that's what I thought it should do as well. But it does not work on my end. There are no settings I can make in v/g that override the display of system panels. There are no settings for phase filters either. Only manually changing the material of the panel itself responds. I may have to create a separate case to determine if I'm experiencing a glitch. Thanks for confirming.

[barthbradley]

You cannot phase individual components of a curtain wall differently from other components of the same curtain wall - but you should be able to apply VGOs (By Element, By Category, By Filter) to components of a curtain wall.  What are we talking about here?  

[cwinchester.hmc]

@barthbradley I was not talking about phasing any elements. The issue is that, for some reason, System Panels that are part of a curtain wall do not accept any graphic overrides set in the visibility graphics for the view I am working in. I mentioned phase filters as something I checked that may be superseding those settings, but they are not. Because there are no other overrides present, and no other options that can affect the graphical appearance of system panels in the view I am working in, as well as your confirmation of the steps I had already taken, has led me to the conclusion that some other error or glitch must be present in my file. I will have to open a separate case outside of this forum to determine the cause. Thanks again.

[barthbradley]

Fascinating.  Please let us know what happens next.  I'm on the edge of my seat here. Don't leave me hanging. 

P.S. I'm betting the butler did it.  I could be crazy nuts, but it always seems to be the butler -- or the husband.  😉

[ToanDN]

Which kind of view? Can you share some screenshots of the view settings?

[barthbradley]

HEY @ToanDN !  Got 2022?   Just curious to know.  

[ToanDN]

yes

[RDAOU]

@cwinchester.hmc 

It shouldn't be a riddle nor a guessing game...Most probably in that case you will open they will ask you to share a little bit more than you did on this forum 🙂 screenshots maybe of view setting, view templates, Worksets, custom View Filter (if not phasing ones)...ask you recreate the view and such and maybe when all fails, ask you to send the model.

In most cases it turns out a small thing which one overlooked 

[syman2000]

If you want to make the system panel respect the sub-category, you have to manually edit in-place

Select the object within the in-place and set it to none and then switch it back to glass. When you finish, it will now respect your sub-category override. Sadly this is very tedious and not worth doing unless you really want the panel to apply to the sub-category.

[omccormickQGD2T]

I am also struggling with this. I have created a unique curtain wall system that uses a wall type for the curtain panels (trying to mimic polycarbonate + system has to attached to roof, hence wall panels). The curtain wall panel line weight is always thick. It is possible to override the individual lines using the linework tool, but impossible (seemingly) to override the panels within the view template / visibility graphics. Infuriating. Please help me so I do not have to override each line manually in my elevation views. 

[omccormickQGD2T]

To Clarify. I can override panel surface patterns. I can halftone panels. I cannot, however, override the panel lineweights by vis graphics / view template.