Doors exist in project but aren't visible in views or schedule

[jbrr27]

I have an aluminum door family in my project, the type that can be used in a curtain wall.  There are 8 of these doors visible, which is how many I expect to have, and how many I see when I "select all in view" from a 3D view (uncropped, no section box, no scope boxes, phase filter set to none).  However, choosing "select all in project" there are 31 of these doors.  The other 23 are not visible in any view and do not show in the schedule.  I thought they might exist in unused groups, but there are no groups in the project with walls or doors of any kind.  Other things I've tried:

-Used CTC Tools "Quick Select" from the "select all in project" option - Revit "can't find a good view" for any of the invisible doors 

-Checked worksets, phasing, and design options, which I can see in the properties menu when all 31 are selected - all 31 of them are the same, Workset1, New Construction, and Main Model respectively

-Accepted the primary Design Option, deleting all others, and they're all still there

-Changed the visible doors to a new family (and inversely selected all in the project, changed all of them, then changed the visible ones back) in attempts to purge the non-visible doors by type, but in both cases the type assigned to these doors does not appear in the purge list 

Ultimately, I was able to find a tool in PyRevit (wipe selected family) that did the trick, but I'm baffled as to where all these phantom doors exist in the model in the first place.  I'd like to figure that out.  Has anyone else encountered something like this?

[azad.Nanva]

can you share the door family , screenshot or what more ?

[jbrr27]

See attached, although I don't think it's inherent to the door family.  Changing the doors to a different type still had the same issue.

[azad.Nanva]

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@jbrr27 wrote:

See attached, although I don't think it's inherent to the door family.  Changing the doors to a different type still had the same issue.

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what do you mean changing the door and same issue?you change 8 door and you have 31 new one?

[jbrr27]

I could select all the doors and change them to a different type, but the 23 still weren't visible.

[Quinnitecture]

My guess is that they are shared, nested door families within the parent door families.    

[SteveKStafford]

That was my first thought too but the family he shared doesn't have any nested families.

[Quinnitecture]

I don't think this family is the one reporting, but point taken.  

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

I've seen that happened some times when I changed curtain grids and Revit reports that certain curtain wall door shall be replaced by system panels.  The curtain walls door became ghost.  Not sure if it is the same here though.

[azad.Nanva · Accepted solution]

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@jbrr27 wrote:

I could select all the doors and change them to a different type, but the 23 still weren't visible.

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chang the seven door and try to count it again,as @ToanDN said i saw something like this but i can find the doors and windows , make the 3d view only with curtain walls and copy them one by one 10 meter(as much as possible) to front the old one , test the count and be sure where come this problem.

[jbrr27]

@ToanDN That certainly sounded possible, there were some funky mullion setups in the project, most of which occurred in curtain wall families containing the door type in question.  I wasn't sure if there was a way to test that theory, but I took @azad.Nanva's suggestion and deleted all my curtain wall families in the model.  All the doors of that type, including the phantom ones, were gone once I did that.