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Difference between Top and Top of Post Reference Planes on Post Family Template

Difference between Top and Top of Post Reference Planes on Post Family Template

jagostinho74
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Difference between Top and Top of Post Reference Planes on Post Family Template

jagostinho74
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Hello,

 

Anyone knows, on a Post Family Template, what are the Top and Top of Post Reference Planes doing?

What are they attaching themselves to?

 

Thank you

 

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Manchester, UK


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barthbradley
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Doesn't look familiar to me?  Is this a Baluster Post?  Structural Post (e.g. Column)? 

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ToanDN
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You mean this?

 

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barthbradley
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Named Reference Planes is what we're talking about?  Well, they don't appear to be "doing" anything in the OP's screenshot.  Betcha something is aligned and locked to them though.  

 

I will add that a Family Template with a Named Reference Plane that cannot be deleted has special intelligence.  

 

....I'll bet that they are for Shape Handles. 

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barthbradley
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See part about Shape Handles

 

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2016/ENU/?guid=GUID-63E81ED4-1538-486C-BD38-D06207B910F5

 

 

...did you look at the Left Elevation View?  

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jagostinho74
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The snapshot I sent was using the "Metric Baluster-Post" Family Template.

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jagostinho74
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If this snapshot was taken from a family using the "Metric Baluster-Post" Family Template, yes.

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jagostinho74
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Yes. I meant the Named RefPlanes included on the "Metric Baluster-Post" Family Template.

 

I am aware that each different family template is hard-coded differently so to work in a particular way when the family is loaded into the model. This is why I asked what are they doing since it is not entirely clear to me. Nor was I able to find specific supporting documentation to explain this.

 

After some tests, this is what I found. Let me know if it makes sense to you or if I am missing something.

The "Top of the Post" Reference Plane is available in case one wants to extend the Post e.g. to introduce a feature, above the Top constraint (in the Baluster Placement window). The "Top" Reference Plane will always match the Post's Top Constraint (in the Baluster Placement window).

 

I think one of the things it looked a little strange to me was that the Top of the Post does not have any constraints applied. In my opinion it should have a Type Parameter assigned so that one can control the extents of that extension (apologies for the pleonasm).

 

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Manchester, UK


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ToanDN
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There are 4 elevation views. Have you looked at all of them? Maybe the constraint is in one of them.
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jagostinho74
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good point @ToanDN 

I did. The "Baluster Height" shows in the Left and Right elevations. But that is pretty much it.

Nothing shows for the Top Post constraint.

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