detail drafting questions

detail drafting questions

georgehobel
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detail drafting questions

georgehobel
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Looking for some input.... 

 

When I am adding details to a floor plan such as: floor joist direction/span direction, Ive been just using detail lines to show layout and span direction.  I'm sure there's a "Revit" way to do it, I just havent found it yet.

 

see image.... 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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barthbradley
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Are they Structural Members?  

 

Span.png

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georgehobel
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Well yes... the notes refer to the floor joist layout... but I did not model the joists.  There is a floor, but not with individual joists... 

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Reflections of Charlotte
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barthbradley
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Hey George! How's it growing?

 

What I mean is are they Beam Systems?  

 

Beam System.png

 

 

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georgehobel
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I got it figured out... Created a detail family... works perfect, my first one.  I guess you can call me a family man.  

 

I finally learned something during this quarantine...

 

FYI... Im still working in Revit LT.  They dont give me those tools you posted above... 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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georgehobel
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yes... beam systems.. joists... like a floor framed with 2 x 10's @ 16" 0.C.

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Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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georgehobel
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if i place joists like that... using the beam option in the structure tab... (which i havent been doing..) what then..?  how'd you get that "2 x 12 " notation?

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Reflections of Charlotte
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barthbradley
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Structural Beam System Tag

 

SpanLabel.png

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georgehobel
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I can use that...!!! thank you

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
Message 10 of 23

georgehobel
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@barthbradley 

  ok... I've created a detail component (directional arrows) with a generic annotation built in (text label).  It all works really well.  I can place it....stretch it... and rotate it... but the text is not locked to the center.  What did I do wrong?  You can see in my picture, I placed the detail component three times with varied length... but the text remains the same distance from the left end (insertion point).

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Reflections of Charlotte
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barthbradley
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Can you post the rfa?  

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georgehobel
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barthbradley
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Test this:

 

See what I did? Aligned and Locked Symbol to Ref. Plane constrained by EQ. Dims.  

Center Lock.png

 

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georgehobel
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that worked perfect... I didnt realize that the symbol had a centerline reference to align to.  Partly, i overlooked this because up until now, i was using a text label instead of that symbol... and I couldnt figure out how to align the text label to anything.  

 

One other question if you can.... in that file, I was having trouble figuring out how to move the "rotation" point from the center of the arrow out to the insertion point.  I achieved this by placing a reference line off to the left... I have no idea why that worked, but it did... surely there's a better way.

George Hobel
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Residential Building and Design
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barthbradley
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Yeah, I wondering about that stuff over to the left. I don't think you need it. But, who am I to say.  

 

If you want the rotation center at the middle, then make that Ref. Plane you added a Origin Center Right/Left Reference.  And get rid of that "stuff" .  

 

…I'm going to come back at you with something in a bit.  

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georgehobel
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what i want is the rotation point to be the same as the insertion point... by default, the rotation is the center line... and I dont see an adequate control whereby i can change it.  

 

Even the way it is though... this saves me a ton of time during detailing... you dont want to know what I was doing before.

 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
Residential Building and Design
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barthbradley
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Try this one. The Tick Marks are an Generic Annotation Family. They will behave like Text (e.g. they will maintain their Sheet Size no matter View Scale).  Set TYPE Parameter "Tick Size".   Also, Label Offset is controlled via Parameter and will be draggable (via Shape Handles) in Project per Instance.  

 

Spacebar-Rotates about midpoint at label.  

 

 

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barthbradley
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@georgehobel wrote:

what i want is the rotation point to be the same as the insertion point...

 


 

Sh*t!  I misunderstood.  This one rotates about insertion point (e.g. Origin Ref Planes intersection).

 

Note: this one as a INSTANCE Visibility Parameter associated to the Label/Text.  Might be good to prevent clusterf*cks at small View Scales.  FWIW.  

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georgehobel
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The level of help and guidance that I have received through this forum has been a tremendous help to me.... So much so that I have found a way to pay it forward.  I started teaching an online "YOU CAN LEARN REVIT" class last week, no charge.  I have students ranging from 8th grade to 65 yrs old across the country.  Some will eventually find their way here to this forum.  When they get here... tell them I'm lost. 

George Hobel
Reflections of Charlotte
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barthbradley
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Did one of those 2 families work for you? Or, did I just f*ck up a perfectly good family?  he, he. It happens.  

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