Demolition Phase Graphics

[craig]

We are trying to change the graphic resolution for the demolition phase. Understand the phasing and graphic overrides. It seems the demolition phase is always displayed in the COARSE resolution and nothing else. EG Walls are just shown as the outlines of the exterior and not the individual lines that make up the wall. Essentially we just want to change the color of the demolition but still see all the components you would see in FINE ??  Is this by design or are we missing something ?

[Anonymous]

Typically there are two phases - existing and new.  Demo is part of the new phase.  It is not recommended to have a separate demo phase.

In your case, if the view is set to Show Demo Only, this is controlled by the graphics overrides and the phase filters.  Check the phase filters to check how demo is displayed there.  If it is Overridden, control how it is overridden in the graphic overrides.

[kpatel2QWBH]

Hi, 

1. If you need the demolished walls to be seen in Fine with all the finishes, you may need to Go to Manage tab > Phasing panel > Phases > Phase filters > Change the graphics for demolished elements to By Category.

2. Now in that case the overrides applied in Graphic Overrides tab does not apply ie the line type and color overrides.

3. So the solution of this might be, you can select the wall > Right click > Override graphics in View > By Element and change the graphics in cut.

Hope this works!!    

[martijn_pater]

Remove material override in phase overrides, it's probably set to demo material with 'course' graphic.

[hmunsell]

in the Phase settings > Graphics Overides tab...

[martijn_pater]

Quite sure it's a material override for the phase tbh, just empty the field as in above posted image. ie. when the materials are overwritten the wall layers become joined (same material).

[hmunsell]

True, i have seen the material overrides cause all sorts of view issues.  i have no material overrides in my test file though. only Line and Pattern overrides. 

instead of click the Visible check box, it would probably be better to just pick Clear Overrides at the bottom Left.

Patterns, Visible unchecked           Patterns, Clear Overrides 

  

[martijn_pater]

Clear overrides doesn't clear the material overrides, but it does show best when you don't have a foreground pattern. Actually unifying the wall layers through material override makes the most sense for an existing wall assembly probably, see below example existing wall unified with material override vs existing wall without. It works the same for other phases.

With material override, unified wall layers

Without material override, wall layers

[hmunsell]

i'm not saying the Materials are not a factor. for this issue, it is probably a combination of the 2 solutions.  the original post said "Essentially we just want to change the color of the demolition but still see all the components you would see in FINE ??"

your examples are showing the Existing, not the Demolition. what happens when you switch the wall to be demolished in new construction and set your phase filter to Previous and Demo?

[martijn_pater]

@craig Essentially we just want to change the color of the demolition but still see all the components you would see in FINE ??  Is this by design or are we missing something ?

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Seeing the components/wall layers is not a combination of those. edit: no, you are right it is (it is not related to phase/phase filter though).

OP needs to clear the material override to see the wall layers and change the color for the demolition with pattern overrides. Just don't override the foreground pattern, changing color is fine though. If all the layers have the same foreground pattern it will unify also for no apparent reason, but perhaps that is the question by OP... ? Actually you would have to create parts of the wall then or use annotation lines, which is not really workable so just don't use foreground pattern override.

Graphic override settings, demo phase

Wall layers with foreground pattern override

[martijn_pater]

Never really noticed before, but seems to me that is actually really buggy. Why wouldn't it show common lines anymore with a foreground pattern override and without material override?

Workaround: create a filter to apply a pattern override if you want to have one.

View filter workaround for foreground pattern