Cutting extended wall layers

Cutting extended wall layers

AzWoodWarrior
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Cutting extended wall layers

AzWoodWarrior
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I need my wall to stop at 9' and I need the layers outside the core  layers on the exterior to wrap the gable and get cut at the roof. It should be easy, but then again nothing in Revit is exactly easy. Unless you count getting to the point of pulling out your hair, that's really easy to do.

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barthbradley
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Unlock the Wall Layer(s) to enable you to apply an Extension to the Layer(s)

 

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/EN...

 

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constantin.stroescu
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what about creating two walls instead of one:

  • one wall for the core and interior finishes that goes from Level to Level
  • the second wall that consists of exterior finishes layers an Attached to Roof
  • Join the walls so to inherit openings.

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AzWoodWarrior
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Seems like a lot of extra work, but I think it should be a solution. As often as I know this will come up in residential construction seems like Revit would have addressed it a decade ago. 

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barthbradley
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@AzWoodWarrior wrote:

Seems like a lot of extra work, but I think it should be a solution. As often as I know this will come up in residential construction seems like Revit would have addressed it a decade ago. 


 

Just seems like a lot of extra work now.  There are half dozen other approaches you could use as well.  You'll get the hang of them all - maybe with a bit of hair-pulling along the way.  Look on the bright side though...your hair will grow back. 

 

😉

 

 

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constantin.stroescu
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you can also use a ghost Roof  (in red in my screen capture), a copy of the real one placed in the opposite direction and overlapping the layers that will extend when use Attach to Roof (Top to ghost Roof)...

The ghost roof will be hide at the end...

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barthbradley
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..or you could balloon frame the Gable Wall.  he, he.  

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constantin.stroescu
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you are right...why not just make another Light Wall over the Level 1 to Level 2 Wall? 

I think this will be the real world solution anyway....

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barthbradley
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Probably 90% of our gables has the wall finish is over gable end truss.  So yes, in this scenario, another approach would be to "stack" a wall with the same finish, but with core thickness equal to truss thickness (1-1/2"), and then Attach that top Wall to Roof.   

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bin
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Just attache your wall to both the ceiling and the roof.

Roof to the face and ceiling to the core.

 

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erinznire
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Hola,

 

What am I doing wrong - the separated section will not attach individually to the roof - it wants to extend the entire wall up...

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Thanks for any help 🙂

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barthbradley
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Try splitting the wall and attaching the hip portion separately. You can join them back together (via Join Geometry) afterwards to remove the visible linework between them.  

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erinznire
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Good call, thank you!

 

It's just not working for me - adding the additional wall for some reason moves all the alignments...for example this screenshot that shows a brand new wall that isn't touching anything but wants to effect constraints?!?!?

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this is a pretty messy file that does a lot of it's own resolving, tee hee. I think I'll just have to draw it. 

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