Curved Wall Finishes

[jrfrost]

What is the best way to apply two seperate finishes to a curved wall? We have a project that's basically all curved walls that we modeled a while back, and now we're creating elevations and applying finishes, and it's a hassle. I know you can't split the face of a curved wall, which is ridiculous, this feature should be added in 2017. Using wall sweeps, you can't cut the face of a curved wall. The only other way I know, is using stacked walls. We have a bunch of different stacked wall types, that are three of the same basic wall types stacked on eachother, stopping and starting at different heights to accomodate the various finish heights we have throughout the project. We have to change every curved wall with two finishes to this stacked wall. The main problem we're having with this is when we change the wall type, any floors and ceilings that are connected to the wall using the "Pick wall" command, come up with an error saying they'll be deleted if we continue. So on top of changing all the wall types, we have to redraw the ceilings and floors using the "pick Lines" command. 

If anyone has any input, or better ways to go about this, please share. In the meantime, Autodesk, please come up with a "Split Face" command for curved walls.

[constantin.stroescu]

a wall type with horizontal split can be obtained as follows:

• create a new type of wall with two layers of finish one above the other
• then Type Properties > Construction >Structure > Edit Assembly > View-Section Modify Type > Split Region  ( to split the exterior layer )and then Merge Regions to merge the selected part of the splited layer with the layer from behind)

This method allows to make a type of wall that can be used in many instances.

Other methods allow more complicated split of the surface but only for an instance.

[jrfrost]

Thanks for the input. This sounds like another feasible way of doing it. Wouldn't you still have to have multiple types for each different finish height using this method? Or is there a way to control the height of the split as an instance, instead of a type parameter?

Also, do you know of a better way to split curved wall faces vertically than splitting a single wall into a bunch of wall segments?

 Thank you

[constantin.stroescu]

could be some ways.

One, is using a thin wall by face placed on a Mass element - a shape placed on the face of the wall as in my screencast. It works for shapes that are not to complicated , that allows wall by face

[constantin.stroescu]

Another way could be , also using Conceptual Mass as a frame for Wall by Face. The finishes of the Curved Wall will be made apart from the structural wall and they will be sticked on its face using Wall by Face ( the face made as a Conceptual Mass , as can be seen in my screencast) . The Conceptual Mass surface could be splitted into small faces using Form Elements by Adding Edges and Profiles. The result depends then of your ability of working with these two instruments 

The thin Layer Walls used as faced based can be ,of course,  scheduled...

[Anonymous]

Hello constantin.stroescu,

Thanks for the video, it helps a lot.

However, it doesn't show how to make curved divisions (you third image). Which I think is the most difficult part in revit.

Could you tell me the tricks?

Thank you very much.

[constantin.stroescu]

that's how I do it usually...

[Anonymous]

Dear sir,

your vedio is very help full,thankyour very much but i have another issue if same curve is slanted as will then how to mak all these parst.

please help me in this

[martijn_pater]

You could try cutting the parts you want to have a different material with voids, and place these voids in same phase (temporary, so existing-existing). Revit will then generate the wall infill, which you can apply another wall type/wall finish to. It might be a little difficult when you want to make changes afterwards perhaps finding these, but it might be a viable solution.