Curtain Wall_02

[zs-17]

When I select a glass of a curtain wall I can offset the distance to move the glass toward the inside or the outside. But, in my case, the negative number will make a gape between the glass panels, and at the same time, the positive number overlap the panels. Is there a way to make the panels look continuous, similar to what shows the last photo with an offset of (zero) no matter the variation of offset number will is set to?

Thank you

[barthbradley]

I have no idea what I'm looking at. Looks mighty strange though.  Can you post the file? 

[zs-17]

This is the same file of the previous post, the sent photos are from the top view, I want to sight the glass toward the outside (-3). At the same time I need a way to fill the gap between the glass.

[barthbradley]

If you aren't using mullions, then why don't you apply a Glass Wall by [Mass] Face?  

...actually, you can curve a Basic Wall and make it Material Glass.  Or, make a polygonal Glass Basis Wall. 

[Lachlan-JWP]

When you draw your wall location line in plan view that is the line that your glazing should be centred on for best results. If the glazing is to be offset to the front or back of the mullions, then it's best to offset the mullion family rather than the glazing.

[zs-17]

On site it's mostly executed as segmented glass when it has a curve shape. It's the effects which I'm looking for with a frame on both sides in addition to top and bottom. I'm trying to learn Revit because it provides executing details otherwise I can learn 3ds Max for visual purpose. So that I'm trying to figure out how to design such example to provide execution details in a real project. When Revit isn't able to do such a thing I will thing then on haw to turn around.

[zs-17]

In my case, when I offset the centerline, the mullions becomes outside the wall, to fix that I have to replace it with a smaller one and I also have to increase the number of mullions. Let's say I work for an aluminum company with and I want to design then provide executing details. I need to figure a solution for that. That's the reason why I look for details and specific answers, It's not because I'm stubborn. It's because I want to learn Revit for the executing details that can provide.

[Lachlan-JWP]

I think you may be trying to push Revit further than it wants to go. For very high levels of detail such as the aluminium profiles, you're better off using AutoCAD. Revit is used for construction documentation, not manufacturers detailing.

[barthbradley]

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@zs-17 wrote:

On site it's mostly executed as segmented glass when it has a curve shape. It's the effects which I'm looking for with a frame on both sides in addition to top and bottom. I'm trying to learn Revit because it provides executing details otherwise I can learn 3ds Max for visual purpose. So that I'm trying to figure out how to design such example to provide execution details in a real project. When Revit isn't able to do such a thing I will thing then on haw to turn around.

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I thought you were talking about the gap. Model the Glass Panels using Basic Walls and you won't have a gap if you Allow Joins.  

Are you aware you can Replace a Curtain Panel with a Basic Wall Type?  

...check out all these nicely joined curtain panels in this Curtain Wall.  Each of the panels is a Basic Wall Type (1" Glass).  

[zs-17]

I though Revit can provide such control but I don't know how to do it. I'm just trying to push myself to get the best from the software.

[zs-17]

Let me say it this way.

I have a curtain panel type, the position of the panel between inside and outside is set by Offset option after selecting the panel; in my case, it's (-4 cm). this offset number makes a gap between the panels, if I go to -7, for example, the gap increase. If the offset number is set to Zero, the gap disappears, the panels look great but the panel position will shift to the center of the wall. the question is that, if I want the offset number to be -4 to reposition the panels between outside and inside, can I close the gap between the panels? can I make the panels look connected together?

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

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@zs-17 wrote:

can I close the gap between the panels? can I make the panels look connected together?

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NO. You cannot JOIN Curtain Panels.  But YES, as I explained and showed above , you can JOIN Basic Walls that are used as Curtain Panels.  

Create a Basic Wall Type of the same thickness and material as your Glass Curtain Wall Panel. Select all Glass Curtain Panels in the Curtain Wall, Unpin them, an then replace them with the Basic Wall Type from the Properties Type Selector/Preview drop-down.   

[zs-17]

Are you aware you can Replace a Curtain Panel with a Basic Wall Type? I don't believe I heard this before so that I didn't understand your reply. Please if you can show me with little details or steps on how to do it. I think this will do what I'm looking for.

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

Simply select any panels, unpin if they are pinned, and change them to a wall type. But that does not mitigate your original issue of panel overlapping or gapping. Easies way is create the curtain wall as a basic thin wall made of glass.

[zs-17]

Ok.

Now I'm not familiar with the rules here. Do I have to accept Barthbradley's solution or ToanDN's to close this post? 🤔

Regards

[barthbradley]

Pick both.  Pick as many as you want.  

Thanks.  

[ToanDN]

Just use common sense.

[barthbradley]

[zs-17]

1. The top effect is what I'm looking for, because, In real life, the glass panels have edges. I'm hoping to find a way to have the same effects no matter how I offset the panel toward inside or outside (without a gap between panels). Not only for this example but for the same issue with an outdoor overhead design. I'm trying to figure out what Revit can do to solve similar problems I may have in the future. I'm not trying to make it hard for anyone of you.
2. I believe I closed this post, I don't know why it still open.

Regards

[barthbradley]

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@zs-17 wrote:

1. I believe I closed this post, I don't know why it still open.

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HA! The thread is open for all to see and reply to for all time.  It may still be active years from now -- even if you aren't.

FWIW: you can show edges of joined walls too.

 

...now if the thread was "closed", you would probably never have known this.  Good thing for you that it was still open, huh?