Create parking space + road

[mairh_tsek]

Hello all,

I want to create in Revit the toposurface ( not the existing one 'naturel' ) in order to place the parking spaces with precise slopes that I need.

Also I need to create the embankment in the side of the road.

Is the revit suitable to do that?

I already tried to do something similar in a previous project creating many pads with different slopes, but the conection between them wasn't very well.

Do you have to give me some ideas?

Thank you in advance!

[Anonymous]

Hello! So normally I would do as you have suggested and use building pads with different slops to cut the topo to the required levels. You are right however sometimes the joins aren't the neatest. you could always do it as a floor and modify the points. Or a combination of the two, use a pad to cut the topo and then a floor over the top to create the necessary falls in the surface at least that way the joins would be neater. Hope this is of some use. 

[Anonymous]

Use a roof vs a floor for roads...you can create curbs via a sweep better than a floor when the angles/road elevations get funky.

[ToanDN]

Use pads to carve out the topo then create flat floors or roof on top of the pads. Then Modify sub elements to adjust the elevation of the floors or the roofs to what you need.

[barthbradley]

Parking Spaces as in  asphaltic concrete? I'm with @Anonymous.  Use Floors or Roofs.  You can slope them all over the place. 

[benhagerman]

In 2018 and 2019 use floors instead of roofs so you don't have to offset for the depth of the surface. Use railings with the curb or parking stripe profile hosted to the surface of the floor. Railings are able to slope vert/horiz to multiple vertices while also along a curve. You just have to get over the fact that you have curbs/stripes that are under the railing category.

Before 2018 though I did use roofs so that you could slope the curb, but in 2018 Revit came out with better railings.

[mairh_tsek]

In 2018 and 2019 use floors instead of roofs so you don't have to offset for the depth of the surface. Use railings with the curb or parking stripe profile hosted to the surface of the floor. Railings are able to slope vert/horiz to multiple vertices while also along a curve. You just have to get over the fact that you have curbs/stripes that are under the railing category.

I was thinking for the curbs to use a Model-in Place -Sweep but I will try the railings.

For the parking stripe I can also use the family for parking spaces that comes with Revit, no? (and host the family to the surface of the floor) 

Thank you in advance!

[benhagerman]

The parking space families host to one plane, most of the time my parking lots have multiple planes and the stripes get lost between vertices. Railings will host to multiple planes and stay attached to the surface (in most cases). 

I try and stay away from model-in-place families all together (if possible, some things may be necessary), they tend to take up storage space and bog the model down. I am using railings for most families that use a profile, (i.e., wall sweeps, curbs, parking stripes...)

[barthbradley]

Don't forget about Slab Edges.  They can be curbs as well.  

[Anonymous]

@barthbradley Tends to be what I use as kerbs, I find them much easier to deal with than inplace sweeps.  

[benhagerman]

I have a problem getting slab edges that are along a curve to slope with the floor. Railings are the only thing that I can get to conform to a curve and also host the elevation changes.

correction; Actually this refers to roof gutters and fascias, slab edges wont slope at all.

[ToanDN]

+1 on using railing for curbs and parking stripes.  

[barthbradley]

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@benhagerman wrote:

slab edges wont slope at all.

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That is incorrect.  Order of operation thing. Apply slab edge and then apply slope to slab.  

[ToanDN]

Slab Edges do slope.  The only condition they don't work is slope + curve, which unfortunately happens a lot in road design.

[barthbradley]

I'm fully aware of that. The statement was "slab edges won't slope at all".  That statement is incorrect.  

[benhagerman]

I stand corrected. It appears that slab edges do slope... However, I still don't recommend them for sitework (curbs)

[ToanDN]

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@barthbradley wrote:

I'm fully aware of that.    

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I was partially aware of that.