Columns not snapping

[juri_pelkonenE4XP5]

Hi

When placing columns in floor plan view, for some reason  snap does not work. For walls and everything else all snaps are just fine (endpoint, center, nearest, intersection etc) but for columns, nope. Why is this?

To clarify:

• For walls when I take the cursor near, say,  an intersection of any two thingamajings, the display will show the appropriate purple symbol (X) and the text "intersection", and once clicked, the wall will actually start from the intersection.
• For columns when I do the exact same thing, a symbol may appear, and a text may or may not appear. Even if the symbol and/or text appears, the snap is actually not active, and the column will not be placed precisely to the intersection (or whatever the text says)
• cycling the snap with tabulator will not help with column snap

[RDAOU]

@juri_pelkonenE4XP5 

Columns snap fine to Grids (either to Grid intersections or Grid Ends). IMO, if you are placing columns without grids, then I would say you are doing something not logical.

[juri_pelkonenE4XP5]

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@RDAOU wrote:

@juri_pelkonenE4XP5 

Columns snap fine to Grids (either to Grid intersections or Grid Ends). IMO, if you are placing columns without grids, then I would say you are doing something not logical.

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@RDAOU oh but contrary to your assumption I do use grids, and the columns do not snap to grid intersections or ends, or any other part for what it's worth.

As for logic, I personally find it illogical that the snap behavior of columns would differ from walls or any other entity (i.e. only snapping to grids), but I could live with that if it actually worked for me. Alas, it does not.

My colleagues who've made the Revit template for our company did not know why columns behave this way in our Revit projects. Apparently this is not a universal issue, so there must be a setting we've gotten wrong, or there is an issue in the column family we use.

[RDAOU]

@juri_pelkonenE4XP5 

The GIF below should speak for itself. Its not a global setting it is how you model the column family and the family template

• If you have modeled the columns properly and did not mess up the ref planes in the template, the Grid lines would snap and turn blue upon placement on columns (See GIF 01)
• If you do not wish to have the behavior above and prefer the standard snapping behavior (See GIF 02)
  1. Delete the Ref Planes (at the center that define origin) which are in the template
  2. Place new ones ref palnes (pin and set as origin)
  3. reconstrain the column EG dimensions, b and h

GIF 01: Default Template Behavior

GIF 02: User added Ref Planes in Column Family

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@RDAOU wrote:

@juri_pelkonenE4XP5 

Columns snap fine to Grids (either to Grid intersections or Grid Ends). IMO, if you are placing columns without grids, then I would say you are doing something not logical.

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Depends on the type of building, and the country you're doing it in.

In my country grid lines are used for big buildings (i.e. warehouses) with exposed skeletal system (steel construction, prefabricated concrete construction). But for family homes (and similar) grids aren't used even though there are plenty of columns placed inside the walls.

They don't snap cleanly to wall ends but do to wall centers and core centers so it's not a big issue.

Example:

[RDAOU]

@blank... 

A grid is a datum element and not a design/construction standard; hence, they are irrelevant to the country one is in. You can use them even on a display booth or a kiosk.

as mentioned in previous reply, the snapping behavior is inherited from the family template. Modifying it as mention will change the snapping behavior to what the OP wants it to.

[arq_42]

Maby an issue with column family? (Reference planes as "not a reference")

Mine snaps with no problem

[juri_pelkonenE4XP5]

Thanks all, I will have to look into the column family we are using. It is not made/modelled by us, it came with the "package" we use, perhaps made specifically for our region.

As I stated in original post, our columns do not snap into anything.