Change (or restore) workplane of a structural frame in a beam system

[ConstantineC]

I want to create a light steel framing using beam system and  for the top plate or headers, etc I am  duplicating and then rotating individual beams but when I do so, sometimes they lose they wall association and also workplane.

Is it possible to associate them again? I even tried  to associated it with a custom reference plane but I cannot make it act as host for the beam.

Even in the Change Host menu, the reference plane that I created does not show up.

Reference planes cannot host structural framing elements?

Why does sometimes, when I copy and rotate  structural frame elements loses its association and sometimes not.

What is even mode confusing is that I cannot even pick the initial workplane which is the wall that the other beams are attached to

It does not let me pick any vertical plane, only horizontal planes even though the original host was a vertical plane of the wall

[ConstantineC]

Now I just realized that the beam frame does keep its association if you copy it but only if the system was on a roof or a floor workplane. It does not keep it for walls.

So I think this could be a nice little wish for the next release?

[jvpantin2]

Use curtain wall (or system) instead of beam system, perhaps? Commnly steel framing panels are modeled as curtain systems or sloped glazing, as them works fine over different plane situation (horizontal, vertical, slanted, face-based).

[ConstantineC]

@jvpantin2 I`v been thinking about that too but is it possible to join or connect with other walls as cladding, sheathing,  so that when I move the curtain wall, the sheathing moves too?

For example here I made the panels of insulation which is perfect but I would like to have sheathing on both sides that attach to the curtain wall. 

I aligned the sides to the curtain wall and locked them but when I drag  it, they don`t move with it. It does work if I just drag the wall.

Another question is scheduling. Will I g

[ConstantineC]

Can I embed a curtan wall into a wall without cutting the host? This would be the perfect solution!