Brick pattern on elevations; Change grey lines to black

[rmcmahon_rau]

We would like to generate black and white building elevations with a brick pattern. We have been unable to make the brick pattern lines black. Instead they are grey. Is it possible to make them black? We would be very grateful if you could provide a solution.

[martijn_pater]

You should be able to control it with visibility/Graphic overrides (in template or vv) projection/surface properties for your walls (or right-click override graphics in view)

[rmcmahon_rau]

Thanks very much for your response. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work. It has been suggest by my work colleagues that the issue could be could be about scale. My drawings are at 1:200 so the pattern lines would be very close together. I don't see why Revit changing them to grey would be any benefit over black?

[martijn_pater]

I don't think scale should have an effect on line color, not sure from your message if that is the case and/or if you've tried changing the view scale with the color changing. Did you check if it might be a filter?

[indiana_j0nes]

Hi,

Go into the material of the brick wall.

Check the material Foreground colour.

I guess its set to 128,128,128 Change it to the grey or Black you want it to be.

Done.

Be careful, it might be a good idea to duplicate the material.

Cheers

[martijn_pater]

I suppose that could be the case, although I assumed this wouldn't be the problem also since view overrides would override the material settings. If you do change this, you should realize that this would change all the surface projections in both elevations/3D etc. ie. if you have 3D views of the same wall on a different sheet/view.

[indiana_j0nes]

True, I wonder why the override doesnt seem to work.

[rmcmahon_rau]

I changed the scale of the elevation to 1:50 and the lines are black. It must be related to scale.

I've discussed this with others in my office who have been trying for so long to achieve this that they abandoned the search assuming it can't be done.

I've attached a screenshot of the material while editing.

[Anonymous]

Revit has always done that.  If the thickness of the pattern lines becomes too great for the scale then Revit shows it shaded grey, otherwise you will just get a black mass.

[rmcmahon_rau]

Thanks all for your input. I think I'll have to accept it can't be done at smaller scales!

It is a shame considering AutoCAD allows you more control over this. You can make a hatch black and have lineweight 0.00 at 1:200. It prints with a nice decipherable brick texture. I'd love to be able to do this with Revit but it seems it's not possible.

[Anonymous]

Note that the pattern uses the lineweight called 1 under your line weights.  You can reduce this, but it may affect other elements in other views.

[martijn_pater]

Ah right, so I didn't know that influences your overrides aswell. Seems it's actually halftone, not 'grey'. Best just just turn the hatches off then probably... since you can't override with a model pattern or go with less detailed hatch.

One thing I can think of is to make a region with an alternative model pattern to reflect the larger scales, but that seems like a lot of effort. Or change material when plotting the elevation views, both not really what you'd want.

[Anonymous]

Well then you could use a drafting pattern, which does scale according to the view scale.

[martijn_pater]

Lol, yeah that's actually the same thing but way-way easier. Let's just say it's getting late...:)
But when you do this use override not the material setting, because it will also effect different pattern view scales for other views you might have on smaller scales.