Automatic Duplicate Dimensioning without Dynamo Or Duplicate View

[wr.marshall]

Is there a way to duplicate dimension and annotations without using Dynamo OR Duplicate View. Example a Black & White Floor Plan, and then a colour version of the exact same floor plan that will require the same dimmensioning & annotations? I know you can duplicate with detailing, but when a plan gets revised you have to then delete the previous "duplicate" and re-duplicate. If I add some dimensions or annotations.... in one view it should automatically reflect in the other view.

[RobDraw]

Since annotations are view dependent, you need to duplicate them somehow. Either manually or with a 3rd party application.

There might be ways to do this by linking the B&W project to a duplicate color project but in order to know if this is even feasible we would need to know more about what this is for.

[Anonymous]

My suggestion would be to create a new view with the dimensions and other elements set to white so that they do not show.  Duplicate this as a dependant so that you have two of these.  Overlay these two views onto your black and white drawing and onto your colour drawing respectively.

I am aware that you said without Duplicate Views, but I can't think of another method to do this in Revit.

[RobDraw]

I was trying to figure out a way to make your suggestion work but I don't think it is as easy as you think it is. Have you actually tried it out?

[Anonymous]

I've just set up a little project to try it - I don't have any problems.  Two different floor plans, with the dims and text in a different view, duplicated as a dependant.  On a sheet, the views snap together.  The dims drawing is set to wire frame, and placed on the sheets before the actual plans

[ToanDN]

Why don't you just have the color floor plan with dimension, print it in colors if you want colors, print it in black/white or gray-scale if you want other no colors? 

[wr.marshall]

@ToanDN  Printing In Black & white will sometimes show walls as solid black when you wish to view fill patterns like brick work on the BW version

@Anonymous - I suppose that would work - "white object"  or overlay the BW over the Colour version. Be nice if Dims and Anno were duplicated with little effor. maybe it's a possible revit idea"

[Anonymous]

Although it works, I would not do this in a project.  I would have just one view and have two different View Templates, and just swap between the two as required.

[wr.marshall]

Revit Idea Link

[RobDraw]

Your "idea" is not thought out very well. What you need was alluded to earlier. You really need a duplicate dependent view that can have different V/G settings. Never mind that the vast majority of drawing sets would never have two sheets exactly the same with one in color and one in B&W.

Why do you think you need such a thing?

[ToanDN]

Here is a test: print the same colored view to a color output and to a half tone output.

[RobDraw]

This guy posts a lot of "ideas". It seems like his mission is to rather find something unusual that Revit can't do and post an idea. I'm not sure what his endgame is. One can only guess but it's not about finding a solution.

[wr.marshall]

@RobDraw The requirement for a colour version & BW version is that when submitting plans to building control they require colour prints, while the builder only requires a BW version. One can change the VG at the bottom of the draw area with the button that changes between realistic, hidden, shaded... Easy enough for a small project like a house plan which might contain a few sheets at most. However when dealing with large commercial projects there are hundreds of sheets. From time to time through the revision process you will need to resubmit the plans to building control. Due to the number of sheets it is a pain staking task to go change each sheet between colour & BW. The need for associated duplicate in each version is for the ability to keep dims & annotations.... in sync, as you might revise something on one version and not revise on the other for whatever reason. Hope that explains the necessity for this.

[wr.marshall]

@RobDraw further printing a Colour version in BW will print solid fills due to the colour.

[RobDraw]

As I thought, there are other ways to get what you want. It's very easy to control V/G in views with view templates, there is no need for duplicate sheets for this. (Which would have it's own set of issues, BTW.)

Use view templates for this. You can change templates in multiple views at the same time using a view schedule.

Good luck!

[ToanDN]

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@wr.marshall wrote:

@RobDraw further printing a Colour version in BW will print solid fills due to the colour.

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No.  Did you look at the samples I posted?

By the way, maybe you should just tell the builders that they need to accept color drawings.