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area boundary lines going where ever

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Anonymous
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area boundary lines going where ever

What´s the logic behind the placement of area boundary lines? When I pick lines (walls) for the boundaries, it places some of the lines on the interior side of the wall and on some to the core within the same plan.

 

I tried to google this and found no explanation. Is there a way to set the rules in a way that it would only pick the interior sides of the walls? 

 

I know I can just draw the lines myself, but it would be so much easier to just pick the walls and it would go right automatically..

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zemeraloni
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hi @Anonymous

You should tru to uncheck the "Apply area rules" mark and then it should work for you.

Good luck!

 

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constantin.stroescu
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

As you probably already know there are several types of areas that can be chosen as so in Revit too:

  •  Gross Area -that comprises Room areas + the walls footprint areas - area measured on the exterior contour of the walls. When Gross Area is calculated per apartments or group of rooms with a certain function then it is calculated on the outer border for exterior walls and center lines for interior separator walls - 
  • Rentable Area - That comprises area of the whole without exterior walls. That area is required when the interior space it is one item and it will be later rented and partitioned by different users..
  • usable area   - that comprise the sum of all Room Areas ( area without walls) -Rooms

 

Constantin Stroescu

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zemeraloni
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Hi @Anonymous

You should try to uncheck the "Apply area rules" mark and then it should work for you.

Good luck!

 

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Ilic.Andrej
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Before creating an area plan, you can choose between area schemes. The default schemes are "Gross Building" and "Rentable". Here s the thing - "Gross Building" uses corresponding rules (exterior side of the wall) and "Rentable" uses corresponding rules (interior side of the wall).

 

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You need to pick all walls in enclosed loop so that computer knows where the interior side is (that line you see in the center of the wall will become the interior line). The problem is: "Rentable" area rules are useless cause you can't exclude voids. So, you have to draw- no way around it.

 

In Revit 2016 you can create a new area scheme and choose which rules correspond with it. (expand room and area and go "room and volume computations")

In later versions of Revit you cant choose between those two types. Probably cause people assumed that you only need one "Gross Building" scheme and all other will be having "Rentable Rules".

 



Andrej Ilić

phonetical: ændreɪ ilich
MSc Arch

Autodesk Expert Elite Alumni

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loboarch
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Here is the help topic describing the rules applied for area lines.

 

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2019/ENU/?guid=GUID-B4AC3088-DBA8-4EB0-BA8F-CAF8EC1EBF9D

 

These are based off of BOMA standards.

http://www.boma.org/standards/Pages/default.aspx



Jeff Hanson
Principal Content Experience Designer
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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: loboarch

Thanks guys, all of you were sort of my answer. First I was baffled how can two similar areas in different floors differ over 10 square meters when they even have the same area type but it was a case of area boundary walls joining differently. All good now, thanks!

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Anonymous
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

One more question, is there a way for the area to detect columns that it would leave them out from the area?

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cbcarch
als Antwort auf: Anonymous

Columns can be Room Bounding, or not Room Bounding--select all columns, then uncheck Room Bounding in Properties.

Cliff B. Collins
Registered Architect The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects-St. Louis, MO

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