Annotation crop dashed lines can remain visible?

Annotation crop dashed lines can remain visible?

octavio2
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Annotation crop dashed lines can remain visible?

octavio2
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The annotation crop region, which appears dashed when we click the crop region, is helpful to help place the text, but then it disappears when we begin to place the text (Oh no!).   Is there a quick way to change this disappearing "defaulting" at will, so that the annotation crop could remain and be seen for as long as you are placing text and/or at will of the person placing the text? 

Of course, it will be nice also if we can "quickly" make it disappear (without too many steps) again at will when we not longer want to see it in a crowded drawing or when you think that the many crop regions are becoming distracting.

Please advise.

Thanks in advance.

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barthbradley
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Interesting workflow.  Normally we do it the other way around. We adjust the Anno Crop to the Anno -- not the Anno to the Anno Crop. How do you do it now? Trial and error and prayer? Pray the anno is captured within the existing Anno Crop?  

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ToanDN
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No. You can submit an Idea to the Ideas forum 

 

I rarely turn on Anno crop except for dependent views.

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octavio2
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Seems that Revit have to pay more attention to the CDs part of it. 

When you do a lot of long wall sections, like the ones of a high skyscraper, you play with the design of the viewports where you are going to put these wall sections and go back and forth with the different sections on the different viewports, like when you are designing them, until you get a layout that you like.   The notes have to be configured (i.e., moved, relocated, etc.) many times to help achieve a desired layout, and if you have the annotation crop visible all the time, then that will help the process (hey, and you do not lose the notes because you can see all the times, on the spot, how much space you have and how much you can move the text before that happens).  This is just one example of why this capability shall be possible for those who want to use it.

And regarding the CDs capabilities of Revit, which have room for improvement, and you have a long wall section that you need to break to put the most important things of it on a 24 inches high sheet (and use view breaks and break lines), have you noticed how difficult and laborious it is to deal with two adjacent "break lines" and their masks when you want to have "minimal" distance between these two break lines?

 

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barthbradley
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Are you aware that you can do this in one view by doing single or multiple horizontal or vertical view breaks and then moving the view regions closer together?    

 

 

https://blogs.rand.com/support/2020/05/revit-how-to-move-a-portion-of-a-split-cropped-region.html

 

 

...sounds like you are creating and annotating multiple views to do this. Maybe I'm reading you wrong. 

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octavio2
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PS: Regarding my comment above about the "break line", Paul Aubin's book REVIT ESSENTIALS FOR ARCHITECTURE has a very good reference to the re-sizing of the break mark on page 585 of the book, and the steps are well explained there.   We might think that it still requires a lot of steps for the resizing of this very common and essential element used in the creation of construction documents.   Also, I think that the break line being so a much used tool, it should be given a special dedicated location in the Ribbon, easily visible and easily accessible without having to load it at first.

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barthbradley
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If you are using the breakline a lot, then add it to your Project Template (RTE).   Seems to me that would solve the lion-share your frustrations.   Once it's loaded into Project, placing it is a piece of cake.  I mean, it's no different than placing any other component.    

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ToanDN
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@octavio2 wrote:

PS: Regarding my comment above about the "break line", Paul Aubin's book REVIT ESSENTIALS FOR ARCHITECTURE has a very good reference to the re-sizing of the break mark on page 585 of the book, and the steps are well explained there.   We might think that it still requires a lot of steps for the resizing of this very common and essential element used in the creation of construction documents.   Also, I think that the break line being so a much used tool, it should be given a special dedicated location in the Ribbon, easily visible and easily accessible without having to load it at first.


I agree that a view break should have a built-in break line, similar to stair cut line.  Now, you have to place two break lines, one on each side of the broken view, then somehow make the jogs not being clipped by the view crop regions.  I often place break lines directly on sheet instead of on the broken view.