Aligning Wall Sections on Sheets with Annotation Objects or Linked Model Levels. How To?

[payingtoomuch]

Have some wall sections that I want to align floor levels on a sheet. Can't seem to snap to anything in the views so I can align them? What am I missing? Can't be this difficult.... can it?

Background:

Model is linked in and used as a background for 2D linework/ detailing (detail lines, regions, etc)

Using Dependent views

Currently have the model turned off in visibility graphics along with the levels and other model annotations.

Was hoping to be able to use align tool to align say a slab (2D not model slab) with another slab.

Not able to select any of the 2D linework.

So, I turned on the levels in the linked model thinking I could use those to align.... but not working either.

So I turned on all the select links/ pinned/ underlay icons bottom left corner and that doesn't seem to do anything either.

What am I missing?

[Tom_Kunsman]

When you are placing the views on a Sheet, Revit at least should align the levels (for the first floor) or other similar floors - watch for the blue dashed reference line - this is your clue that they are aligned

[payingtoomuch]

I'm beating my head against a wall on this right now but I do see a blue line show up here and there when I'm attempting to align on the sheet. What is this blue line referencing?

Was thinking if I move the view and then the blue line shows up where it references another view that it would place them at the same origin.... but it's not happening. Man need to get this figured out!

[payingtoomuch]

.... don't want to have to take everything off the sheet and replace them on the sheets..... to let revit line it up for me.... but if that's the only solution then guess I might need to do that!

Thanks for the quick response btw....

[Tom_Kunsman · Accepted solution]

dont have to remove the view, just moving the view, and trying to align to the same reference level should do it. it is subtle . . .

[payingtoomuch]

OK. Glad to know it's as subtle as I'm finding it to be...

Thinking I'm getting somewhere with it now halelujia!

Looks like only some levels can actually be aligned to. Guessing there is some rhyme or reason to this?

For anyone else having issues with this appears you have to select the viewport you want to move first then select the move tool then kind of browse around in the view until a blue line shows up then grab there then move it around until another blue line (at the same elevation) shows up. Waallaaaa.... done! (or something like that).

[SteveKStafford · Accepted solution]

The views need to be the same scale for alignment visual cues to be possible. In a section views it is aligning based on the elevation zero. So for example, if the first floor level is at zero then that level will align with others that level is visible in. I have seen instances where a section looking west would not align with a section looking north but should have, not often but I know I've run into it.

[payingtoomuch]

Thanks Steve. The views are all the same scale.... but that makes sense and good to know.

So ultimately for a linked model (that I'm tracing over) the blue lines will reference whatever floor that the person who started the drawings established as zero?

Fortunately I didn't run into North vs West (etc) section issues this go round. Be happy in small things LOL!

Feel like I have a handle on this now.

[SteveKStafford]

The section view isn't "referencing" the linked model at all when you are lining up a section view on a sheet with other views already on the sheet. It is only paying attention to the local model "world". When you link another Revit model it should usually be linked Auto - Internal Origin to Internal Origin so both models align based on their internal origin which places the ground floor of the building at zero...usually. So the linked model will show up in your hosting model section views but Revit isn't paying any attention to the link while placing the views on sheets. As such you should create equivalent levels in your hosting model (and grids, what copy/monitor was created to help accomplish) so you can create your own plans to show the building in the same way as the link does in its own environment. HTH

[ToanDN]

Grids, levels, reference planes in views can be used for alignment, including alignment with sheets title block line work.

[payingtoomuch]

Steve- Thanks for the follow up. Right now I'm just responsible for detailing in section. I need to chew on what you're saying.... not exactly following right now. Once I get my head wrapped around it I'll get back to the thread.

TOAN- Does this apply to linked models as well? I'm basically just using a linked model as a background to draw 2D Linework over. I know for a fact (I believe) that I can not use the levels to align to anything including other levels.... maybe because they are in the linked model?