Adding items to a schedule that aren't modeled

[Anonymous]

I'm creating some fixture schedules for a project, which auto-populate, and then I'm assigning type marks to those objects which allows me to tag them in the interior elevations and enlarged floor plans. However, I ran into a problem where I'd like to add more items to the schedule that aren't modeled, and I can't seem to manually add another row since it auto-populated. Is there any work around to this?

For example: I created a specialty equipment schedule to list all the appliances and I'd like to manually add a row for the garbage disposal because it seems like a waste of time and resources to actually model a garbage disposal that won't even get tagged. I have similar issues with casework (backsplashes would like to be their own row, but they are currently modeled as part of the countertops) and plumbing fixtures (don't want to model the bathtub spout, but would like it listed in the schedule).

A few ideas I had:

- Create manual spreadsheets that aren't linked to the model. But then I'll have to manually tag all the objects, which is tedious and negates the point of using Revit.

- Create a manual spreadsheet just for these items. But then it would be a separate list, meaning they won't be grouped with the other items of that category and would make the schedules messy and hard to follow.

- Create dummy objects somewhere in the model with their own type marks, just so it'll add the row to the schedule. This doesn't seem like good practice though, and could get confusing when someone else tries to work on the schedules.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

[Sahay_R]

http://www.mattbenimble.com/articles/reusable-schedules/

That's the only thing that I could find.

[loboarch]

I would probably make a really simple family (like literally a rectangular volume) of the things you want to schedule and place them in the model.

If you go to a "manual" schedule, you are right, it is tedious and negates the use of Revit in the first place. it can also make for potential errors. But on the flip side not wanting to actually model the elements to make them schedule also negates the whole idea of Revit too. If it is there and you want to count it, you have to model it. if you model it I would suggest figuring out how to model it in the right place (generally) other wise creating "dummy" objects somewhere opens the possibility of error too.

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

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@Anonymous wrote:

For example: I created a specialty equipment schedule to list all the appliances and I'd like to manually add a row for the garbage disposal because it seems like a waste of time and resources to actually model a garbage disposal that won't even get tagged. I have similar issues with casework (backsplashes would like to be their own row, but they are currently modeled as part of the countertops) and plumbing fixtures (don't want to model the bathtub spout, but would like it listed in the schedule).

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You don't need to model the elements if you only need them listed in the schedule.  But you do need to create the families.

For example: Create backsplash family with nothing drawn.  Set it to Shared and nest it in the casework family.  Place it anywhere, doesn't matter.  Load the casework family to your project and now the backsplashes will show in your schedule.

Same for bathtub spout or the likes.

[Anonymous]

Thanks everyone! Both the ideas from rsahayUZMK9 & ToanDN worked.

For rsahayUZMK9's solution, here's the process I used:

- Create a Multi-category schedule and add all the fields you need

- In the Filter tab, filter by Type Mark begins with XX (the abbreviation for that category’s tags, such as PL for plumbing fixtures)

- Click on the header row and you’ll be able to manually add rows, columns, etc using the ribbon. Add a few rows below the header. In the first row manually enter some headers to match the fields of the auto-populated rows below (i.e. type mark, manufacturer, model, etc) and adjust the formatting to match below

- In the additional added rows below that you can manually fill in the desired products

- Go into the properties Appearance tab and uncheck “show headers” which creates a seamless transition from your manually entered rows at the top and the auto-populated rows below

It's a good work around, but I ended up going with ToanDN's solution because it's much simpler to do and works beautifully. I did it exactly as described, although I had to find the empty family in the project browser and "edit type" to add a type mark before it would show up in the schedule.