2 different demo phases

[Anonymous]

I have demo that we are proposing and demo walls and fixtures that have been already demolished by the previous architect and contractor.

we want to make a separate sheets for those phases and that the demo that was already demolished will be shown graphically in a different way. how can I make two different phase appearance fro that purpose?

Thank you!!

[barthbradley]

Are you talking about Graphic Overrides (located under Phasing tab)? Or, perhaps Design Options? Or a combination of both? 

[Anonymous]

I know the graphic overrides...it allow you to have one graphic for demolition.

I would like to have different look for the walls in one demo phase and dashed lines walls in the other demo phase.

I was thinking about view template by phase but I really don't know how to do it step by step

[ToanDN]

Should the previously demolished items be gone in your current demolition plan?  Why do you need to show them?

[Anonymous]

its documentation for the bid and pricing

[barthbradley]

Reason I was thinking Design Options, is because it sounds like that's what your describing -- you may use one approach or the other, but not both. After all, demolishing is kind of finite and irreversible, isn't it? 

[Anonymous]

My project manager want me to make sheet for the existing demolition and one for the proposing demolition. but for the existing demolition we thought that it would be better to show it in a different graphic not to confuse the contractor.

if there is no way to do it...I just want to know that so I can inform him...I don't really want to do it manually

[barthbradley]

HA! I'm already confused. Sounds like you want a phase named Demolition. Demolition isn't a phase; it's a state of being (or, more correctly, a state of not being). 

[ToanDN]

@Anonymous

So to be clear, will [items to be demolished under the previous architect] and [items to be demolished under yours] be demolished in the same phase, sequence wise?

[Anonymous]

Im very familiar with the phases...

the situation is like that:

existing building...previous architects started the job and some demolition has happen. some walls demolished completely, some partially demolished (only studs left) 

we are now working on proposing new demolition plan.

so what I was setting is 3 phases: then, in-between phase and now. in the in between phase Im demoing the walls that have been knocked down by the previous architect and at the now phase I'm demoing our proposed walls for demo.

in our demo i want to show the walls in dashed lines as always and in the in between phase demo I want to show the demo walls with very light grey solid hatch

I hope it makes sense

[Anonymous]

no what the previews architects already demolished we want to put in a different sheet.

it is base on  servey since we don't have documentation of what actually been demolished or not

[Sahay_R]

Why don't you just create two phases, name them maybe Demo 1 and 2, and apply graphic overrides to them?

[Anonymous]

again this is what I did...

I want that in demo 1 the demoed walls will look different then the demo 2 walls.

how do I make 2 different graphic overrides (not manually)

[ToanDN]

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@Sahay_R wrote:

Why don't you just create two phases, name them maybe Demo 1 and 2, and apply graphic overrides to them?

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Items demolished in a prior phase will not show in the demolition plan of a later phase.

[ToanDN]

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@Anonymous wrote:

again this is what I did...

I want that in demo 1 the demoed walls will look different then the demo 2 walls.

how do I make 2 different graphic overrides (not manually)

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I think you need to use Filters to differentiate the graphics between the two demolitions if you want to show both of them in the same view.

[Anonymous]

they are in a different sheets but the graphics will be different

[RobDraw]

This whole demolition is not a phase thing has had me confused for years because one of my first projects had multiple demo phases and temporary new work. Until recently, I've made a demolition phase. It just made sense to me. We don't show demo stuff on the new work sheets. Why would we do demo in the new work phase? I am trying a couple of projects without a demo phase and demolishing stuff in the new phase. It works but controlling the graphics is a bit confusing. If I remember correctly, having a demo phase made things easier.

So, yes, I would make multiple demo phases in this situation until a better solution presents itself.

[ToanDN]

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@Anonymous wrote:

they are in a different sheets but the graphics will be different

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Same deal.  You can use Phase graphics override for your demolition to show what you always show, and a combination of Phase graphics override + View Filter to tweak the appearance of the other demolition a bit.