Tag orientation changes from Vertical to Horizontal

[Anonymous]

Hi All, 

I created some rebar tags and set a custom tag position. When I defined them, I set the orientation to "Horizontal" for horizontal bars and "Vertical" for vertical bars. They are well done created but when I want to order the leaders in my view, if I take the elbow or the leader end it always changes to a horizontal position.

The "Orientation" is still "Vertical" but the text is flipped horizontal position. 

Original (just created through API)Manually moving the elbow.

What am I missing here?

Thanks in advance!

[so-chong · Accepted solution]

hi, go to the family editor (edit family) of the rebar tag and go to the "family category and parameters" window.

try to uncheck the setting "rotate with component".

hope this helps.

[Anonymous]

Hi @so-chong. Thanks for the quick reply. As a matter of fact, I have this option checked, so what else could be causing this?

Thanks in advance!

[RPTHOMAS108]

That is the option you don't want ticked, if you don't tick it you can set horizontal or vertical explicitly in the pull down that is currently greyed out.

When tags don't have a leader they align to the element with this option e.g. beam references. If tags have a leader the horizontal or vertical orientation changes according to position from leader.

However if you remove the rotate with component then you can explicitly set horizontal or vertical and I believe (from memory) that isn't then affected by leader location from tag. My problem with leaders for rebar is that they start from the centre of the tag text and not beneath it. I tend to turn them off and put in an annotation family line (details lines don't extend beyond the crop). Annotation lines are awkward however since you can't have grips and therefore need to trial the length values.

[so-chong]

Hi, Richard explained it very well what happens if this options is enabled or disabled. To give you an idea how this may look like i made a screenshot.

on the 'left' side of the screenshot the option is disabled and the tag remain vertical, on the 'right' side the option is enabled and the tag will rotate horizontal automatically when you try to adjust the tag manually.

[Anonymous]

Thanks, @so-chong and @RPTHOMAS108. I misread the first response. My bad. This was actually the solution that I was looking for.

Cheers!

[Anonymous]

Hi @RPTHOMAS108 What if you try to play with the "LeaderEndCondition.Free" and then setting the Elbow and End properties according your needs? 

Cheers!

[RPTHOMAS108]

Hello Jorge,

Thanks for the suggestion, I believe I tried all those permutations with the tags at the time. I think sometimes we just need to adapt our traditional presentation slightly to how Revit does things. I've not done any RC detailing since Revit 2014, so probably things may have improved since then (although tags seem very similar apart from multi rebar tag).

I always thought that what Revit should have is a dedicated view type for RC detailing with specific functionality but perhaps they have too many view types as it is.

Regards,

Richard

[Anonymous]

I agree with you Richard. I quite miss this kind of view.

Cheers!