Offline Programming probed Planes not possible?

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I have worked for many years with the PowerInspect Versions 2010-2012. The biggest advantage of PowerInspect was the possibility to create programs fully offline. That means, I was able to add a "probed plane" and related Circles/Lines without connection to the CMM. When you work mainly with manual CMMs, such as Nikon MCAx, Faro Edge or Hexagon Romer, then you don't want to run arouind the table and play ping pong (add element, switch to the arm and measure, add next element, switch to the arm etc.).

Coming back to my Problem: Is it my fault or did Autodesk delete the possibility of offline programming probed planes? I cannot create a probed plane without to measure it immediately.

Any ideas of how to do this offline (without arm connection) ?

If this is the new strategy of Autodesk, then they have deleted one of the biggest advantages of Power-Inspect. 

BR

[chris.steadman]

Hi Murat,

There has been no change to the ability to create inspection sequences offline in a document before connecting to a device. Please try the following procedure: -

1. Start Autodesk PowerInspect Manual 2020 from the Windows Start menu and create a new document.

2. On the Home tab, ensure the Delay button is clicked, this can be found on the Execute panel. You can also find this button on the Measure tab, labeled Delay Measure.

3. Create a new Geometric Group either on the Home tab, or on the Geometry tab.

4. Now select a probed plane from either the Geometry button on the Home tab, or from the Planes panel on the Geometry tab.

5. Fill in any nominal data that you have for the plane on the Probed Plane dialog box, then click the OK button on the dialog.

6. You have now created a probed plane.

If this solves your problem, please mark this as a solution.

Thanks,

Chris

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your fast feedback.

Unfortunately it does not work with planes. It works with circles or points, but not with planes. I have activated the "delay" function.

Here you can see the activated Delay Function (what btw is activated by default)

Here you can see how it looks when I add any other element (pushing the green button adds it)

Here you can see how it looks when I add a plane (green button is grayed). The dialog still requests me to measure three points.

This seems to be a bug for me. Please report to the Autodesk team (or there is some hidden function I don't know but that is something I would call bug either).

First I thought it might be a general issue because the software must know the nominal points and axis of a plane. But when I create a circle, Power-Inspect just adds a blank plane to it with no issues.

BR

[chris.steadman · Accepted solution]

Hi Murat,

The reason you cannot accept the plane is because you have started PowerInspect CNC version. This means when you create a Geometric Feature the probe path generator is automatically enabled by default. For Planes, you should then click points on the CAD file where you want the CNC CMM to measure. A plane requires a minimum of three points before you can accept the feature. If you need to use the CNC version, then you can disable the probe path generator by clicking the button shown below.

Once it is disabled it will look like this: -

You will then be able to create a new plane without selecting points to measure.

Because you previously said you want to use a Faro arm to measure your parts, you should start the PowerInspect Manual. As you have a license for PowerInspect Ultimate, you should have more than one PowerInspect version available in your start menu like you see in this image: -

 

Please select the PowerInspect xxxx Manual version and try creating a Plane using the method in my first response. Either way both methods will resolve your problem, but using the Manual version for manual devices is the correct way to use the product.

Please Accept Solution if this solves your issue.

Thanks

Chris. 

[Anonymous]

Thank you very much!

This perfectly resolved my issue. 🙂 

I really did not recognize the various versions. I am glad you immeidately understood my problem. So my fault.

Have a good day!

[d.yeager]

Turning on the delay measure is the only option.  I would think this should be turned on by default.  I too use manual CMMs with Power Inspect and I always wondered how often someone crashes a CNC controlled CMM when it wants to take off after each manually programmed item.