Finding idw source file location from ipt/iam with VB.NET?

mucip
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Finding idw source file location from ipt/iam with VB.NET?

mucip
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Hi,

Normally I put idw files in same location as ipt/iam source files.

But in some cases idw files is not located in the same of ipt/iam source files. But if I want to use "Open Drawing" from model tree of ipt/iam files Inventor can find the idw file and open.

I want to do same thing from my BOM tree code. Normally I can iterate BOM tree and find fileLocation of ipt/iam fil then change ipt/iam to idw and I can open file easily.

But if the file locations are not same then it's impossible to open idw files?

How can I find idw locations with VB.NET?

 

Regards,

Mucip:)

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WCrihfield
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Hi @mucip.  If your code is iterating through an assembly's BOM, then not only is the assembly open, but all the files that the assembly is actively referencing have also been 'initiated'.  What that means is, they have been partially loaded into Inventor's session memory, but not fully or visibly opened yet, so no document tabs for them.  If you have Inventor's 'status bar' showing, then you will see two numbers showing within its right side.  One (furthest right) is the number of open documents in session, while the other is the total number of occurrences in the active document.

 

With that in mind, there is a property of all Document type objects called ReferencingDocuments that may help.  It will only be able to find/include the other Documents that are currently loaded in Inventor's memory, and are currently referencing that Document.  So, if the drawing for that model document was already open, or somehow invisibly loaded into Inventor's memory, then from that model document, you may be able to find that drawing within that collection.  However, the assembly will also be referencing that model file, and any other sub assemblies that it is in will be in there also.  So, if it is in there, it may not be the only one in there.  Plus, if there are any drawings open for the whole/main assembly, then that drawing will also be referencing that model document, because it is referencing the assembly, and it is referenced by the assembly.  But if the drawing is not already open, then this property would not be able to help any.  Maybe if you had something like Vault installed and were using that, and all these files were currently being 'managed' by it, then there may be a way to use Vault to find the drawing file that references that model file, because it keeps all file references in an active database.

 

The Document.FindWhereUsed method works about the same way.  It will only search within the other documents that are currently loaded in the active session of Inventor, and won't search your entire file system.  There is a standalone tool that gets installed with Inventor named "Design Assistant", which has some functionality for 'Where Used', and that will actually search throughout your entire project space, of file system, if you want it to, but if that area contains tons of files (like mind), then may take a really long time to do.

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I do not know of any other property on the model file side that will point to any drawing that may have a reference to it.  If that were the case, then every time you create a drawing, and add that part, or an assembly containing that part into it as a view, it would have to 'modify' that model file, to add something into it about the reference to it that was just made.  Managing those associations in both directions, to support functionality like 'Where Used' is large part of what Vault does for us.  I do not yet have Vault, but I believe we will be getting it soon.

Wesley Crihfield

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mucip
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Hi,
I think this is a Robot/AI?

Writing too many things but not answer to my question unfortunatelly.

 

Regards,

Mucip:)

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marcin_otręba
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Hi,

 

You can achive this two ways, and second in my opinion is better because it will be faster and it will work even if idw filename is different than model.

1. Use folder.GetFiles for example to find drawing for each file

 

  Dim Folder As New IO.DirectoryInfo(oPath) 'pfolder)
  Dim i As Integer = 0
  For Each File As IO.FileInfo In Folder.GetFiles(name & ".idw", IO.SearchOption.AllDirectories)
         
  Next

 

2. make simple code to create/update custom property in your model to store drawing location and run it on idw save then just use it to open file use idw.ReferencedDocuments(1)  to find idw referencing model. 

 

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mucip
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Hi,

But name and location of the idw file may be different than ipt file.

In this case your code will not get result ı affaraid.

But your second chice looks good. But in this case we need to update all files.

Regards,

Mucip:)

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marcin_otręba
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you can write code to iterate trough all idw files and update iproperties.

Hi, maybe you want to check my apps:


DrawingTools   View&ColoringTools   MRUFolders

mucip
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Hi,
Long way but it's solution.

By the way how can Inventor knows this? I can right click with the mouse on model tree than it can open the idw file. This mean that This idw path written in somewhere? Am I wrong?

 

Regards,

Mucip:)

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marcin_otręba
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Nope, it opens idw if it is in the same location and with the same name as model. 

 

For the solution you can adapt this rule to update properties in model referencing to idw, just change property name in line 55

. :

Imports System.Windows.Forms
Class ThisRule
Public FSO As Object
Sub Main()
Dim FolderBrowserDialog1 = New FolderBrowserDialog()
        Dim folderpath
        Dim objFolder As Object
        Dim strStartPath As String
        Dim oPath As String = ThisApplication.DesignProjectManager.ActiveDesignProject.WorkspacePath
        '   FolderBrowserDialog1.RootFolder = oPath
        FolderBrowserDialog1.SelectedPath = oPath
        If FolderBrowserDialog1.ShowDialog() = DialogResult.OK Then
            folderpath = FolderBrowserDialog1.SelectedPath

            FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
            Dim fld = FSO.GetFolder(folderpath)
            If Not fld Is Nothing Then
                ThisApplication.UserInterfaceManager.UserInteractionDisabled = True
                ThisApplication.SilentOperation = True
                On Error Resume Next
                Dim Folder As New IO.DirectoryInfo(folderpath) 'pfolder)
                Dim i As Integer = 0
                'Chr(34) & name & "*" & Chr(34)
                Dim resp As MsgBoxResult = vbYes
                ifi = UBound(Folder.GetFiles("*.idw", IO.SearchOption.AllDirectories))
                If ifi > 500 Then
                    resp = MsgBox("Found  " & ifi & "  IDW files in given directrory, Do you want to continue?", vbYesNo)
                End If
                If resp = vbYes Then
                    ifi = 0
                    Call ListFolders(folderpath)
                End If
          ThisApplication.UserInterfaceManager.UserInteractionDisabled = False
                ThisApplication.SilentOperation = False

            End If
        End If
    End Sub 
Sub ListFolders(folder As String)
    

        On Error Resume Next
        Dim doc As Document
        Dim FSO_Folder As Object
        Dim oFolder As Object
        Dim fld As Object
        If FSO.FolderExists(folder) Then
            fld = FSO.GetFolder(folder)
        End If
        For Each file In fld.Files
            If Microsoft.VisualBasic.Right(File.name, 4) = ".idw" Then
                Dim drawdoc As DrawingDocument = ThisApplication.Documents.Open(fld.path & "\" & File.name, False)
                ThisApplication.StatusBarText = "updating iproperty for " & drawdoc.FullFileName
                Dim oref As Document = drawdoc.ReferencedDocuments.Item(1)
                UpdateCustomiProperty(oref, "Property name", drawdoc.FullFileName)
                oref.Save()
                drawdoc.Close(True)
            End If
        Next
        For Each subfolder In fld.SubFolders
            If Microsoft.VisualBasic.Right(subfolder.path, 11) <> "OldVersions" And Microsoft.VisualBasic.Right(subfolder.path, 2) <> "_V" Then
                ListFolders(subfolder.path)
            End If
        Next

    End Sub
    Private Sub UpdateCustomiProperty(ByRef Doc As Inventor.Document, ByRef PropertyName As String, ByRef PropertyValue As Object)
            On Error Resume Next
        Dim customPropSet As Inventor.PropertySet = Doc.PropertySets.Item("Inventor User Defined Properties")
        ' Get the existing property, if it exists.
        Dim prop As Inventor.Property = Nothing
        Dim propExists As Boolean

        propExists = False
        For Each prop In customPropSet
            If prop.Name.ToLower = PropertyName.ToLower Then
                propExists = True
                Exit For
            End If
        Next
        ' Check to see if the property was successfully obtained.
        If Not propExists Then
            ' Failed to get the existing property so create a new one.

        
                prop = customPropSet.Add((PropertyValue), PropertyName)
                Doc.Save()
           
        Else
            If prop.Value <> PropertyValue Then
                    prop.Expression = (PropertyValue)
                    Doc.Save()
              
            End If
        End If
    End Sub
End Class

 

Hi, maybe you want to check my apps:


DrawingTools   View&ColoringTools   MRUFolders

WCrihfield
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Hi @mucip.  I am certainly not a robot and not controlled by artificial intelligence.  In fact, I find the idea of artificial intelligence a bit creepy, so I have chosen to not (knowingly) interact with any form of it thus far.  If that were the case, I would be on here 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and I would not have so many typo's in my responses from typing too quickly.  I am only active on this forum during the hours that I am at work.  And while I am at work, I also have many other work related tasks to get done, and many other things on my mind, because I am always multi-tasking on multiple projects.  I choose to monitor this forum and help others when I can, because automating Inventor has been one of my main interests for years now, and I have gotten to be quite good at it, primarily through my own research, trial & error experience over the years, and being present on this forum for years helping others with their complex challenges.  If I choose to take the time out of my work day to type up a large, informational article about a topic being asked about, complete with links to relevant online help documentation, and visual aids, that does not make me a robot, it makes me someone who cares enough about helping others to make that sacrifice on the behalf of others whom I have never met before.  Unfortunately that time and effort does not get recognized or appreciated by some that I attempt to help.

Some questions can not be answered to the satisfaction of the asker within one or two lines of typed text.  Some questions either do not contain enough information to go by, or are far to broad for a precise/specific/short answer to satisfy.

 

You wanted to know how to find the drawing files which reference the models in your assembly, and mentioned that they are not always located in the same folder as the model file that they reference, and mentioned opening drawings directly from model files.  I knew that so far, there does not appear to be any property on the model file's side which records the drawing file's location, its name, or even its existence.  If there is such a property, then it would seem that only the folks at Autodesk who wrote the source code for Inventor may now about it, and have chosen to not reveal that detail to us yet.  So, I stated what I know about the situation of trying to find drawing files from model files.  And now that I have read in some of your later responses that even the name of the drawing file may be different than the model file, that makes this task even more complicated.  The code to find the drawing files you are looking for may need to include information that only you know about, such as information about where you may have saved those drawing files in relation to the model files, and how you may have named those drawing files differently than the model files.  And if those associations can not be easily accounted for or tested for by logic based code, then every drawing type file in your entire project space may need to be iterated through, invisibly opened, and its referenced documents scanned to check if they include any of the model files referenced by your assembly.  This could be an incredibly time consuming process, and could even freeze-up Inventor, if there are lots of files in that space for the code to process.  I know this because I have encountered situations like this myself in the past and have attempted to run code on our file storage area and had to 'end task' them or had Inventor crash on us, and have encountered several other inquiries similar to this in on this forum before.

Wesley Crihfield

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(Not an Autodesk Employee)

hollypapp65
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Inventor just search for the drawings inside Workspace defined in Project.

Nothing fancy.  No AI required.

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mucip
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Hi,

Than I need to search in workspace only. This is good news.

 

Regards,

Mucip:)

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We use Wunderkind to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Wunderkind. Ads are based on both Wunderkind data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Wunderkind has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Wunderkind to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Wunderkind Privacy Policy
ADC Media
We use ADC Media to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by ADC Media. Ads are based on both ADC Media data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that ADC Media has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to ADC Media to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. ADC Media Privacy Policy
AgrantSEM
We use AgrantSEM to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by AgrantSEM. Ads are based on both AgrantSEM data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that AgrantSEM has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to AgrantSEM to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. AgrantSEM Privacy Policy
Bidtellect
We use Bidtellect to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bidtellect. Ads are based on both Bidtellect data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bidtellect has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bidtellect to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bidtellect Privacy Policy
Bing
We use Bing to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bing. Ads are based on both Bing data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bing has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bing to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bing Privacy Policy
G2Crowd
We use G2Crowd to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by G2Crowd. Ads are based on both G2Crowd data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that G2Crowd has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to G2Crowd to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. G2Crowd Privacy Policy
NMPI Display
We use NMPI Display to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by NMPI Display. Ads are based on both NMPI Display data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that NMPI Display has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to NMPI Display to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. NMPI Display Privacy Policy
VK
We use VK to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by VK. Ads are based on both VK data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that VK has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to VK to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. VK Privacy Policy
Adobe Target
We use Adobe Target to test new features on our sites and customize your experience of these features. To do this, we collect behavioral data while you’re on our sites. This data may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, your Autodesk ID, and others. You may experience a different version of our sites based on feature testing, or view personalized content based on your visitor attributes. Adobe Target Privacy Policy
Google Analytics (Advertising)
We use Google Analytics (Advertising) to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Google Analytics (Advertising). Ads are based on both Google Analytics (Advertising) data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Google Analytics (Advertising) has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Google Analytics (Advertising) to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Google Analytics (Advertising) Privacy Policy
Trendkite
We use Trendkite to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Trendkite. Ads are based on both Trendkite data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Trendkite has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Trendkite to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Trendkite Privacy Policy
Hotjar
We use Hotjar to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Hotjar. Ads are based on both Hotjar data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Hotjar has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Hotjar to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Hotjar Privacy Policy
6 Sense
We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
Terminus
We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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