Hello everyone,
I am new to fatigue analysis in Inventor Nastran and I came to a problem for what I cannot find a solution. @John_Holtz
I am testing a piece of solid material (carcass of a conveyor belt). The piece was physically tested and these are the results:
Number of cycles to break | Stress in material (MPa) | Force (N) |
1 | 200 | 80000 |
1000 | 120 | 48000 |
5000 | 100 | 40000 |
50000 | 80 | 32000 |
300000 | 70 | 28000 |
1000000 | 60 | 24000 |
I have set material parameters:
Load Scale factor VS time is set as:
When I run the test with 48.000 N, I get desired values, of about 1000 life cycles:
But when I run the analysis with the next level of force, 40.000 N, for which I expect 5000 life cycles, I get absurd results of 981567 life cycles:
Does anyone know where am I making a mistake?
Hi @procenitelj
I assume the force and stress in your table are the maximum values when the load table multiplier is 1. Is that correct?
The "S" in the "S-N" curve is the stress amplitude (Sa), not the maximum stress (Smax). If the load were fully reversing, then "S" = Sa = Smax. You have a load that varies between 0.6 and 1.0 of the maximum stress, so "S"=Sa=Smax*(1-0.6)/2 = 0.2 times the maximum stress. If this understanding is correct, you need to plot the points 0.2*Smax versus N and recalculate the fatigue material properties.
John
Dear John,
Thank you for the fast reply. When I set the Load Scale Factor as following:
And leave old S-N data configuration:
I get proper results:
But when I use 0.2*Smax versus N:
with Load Scale factor 0,6 to 1, I do not get proper results:
Did I misunderstood you when u said: "You have a load that varies between 0.6 and 1.0 of the maximum stress, so "S"=Sa=Smax*(1-0.6)/2 = 0.2 times the maximum stress. If this understanding is correct, you need to plot the points 0.2*Smax versus N and recalculate the fatigue material properties." ?
Hi @procenitelj
Your understanding of what I said was correct. Sorry, but I think I misunderstood your original description I gave you wrong information. 😞 Let me know if this is the correct interpretation.
If the above is the correct interpretation, the answer is mostly the same! The "S" in the S-N curve is the stress amplitude. Since your stress amplitude Sa = 0.2* Smax, you need to read the S-N curve at that value.
For example, the load of 40000 N gives a stress of 100 MPa. Therefore the stress amplitude Sa = 100*0.2=20 MPa. Interpolating the S-N curve at 20 MPa indicates an infinite life, and that is approximately what Nastran calculated.
The full calculation is slightly more involved. The "S" on the S-N curve is the value Sa0 = Sa/(1-Sm/Su) where Sm is the mean stress. In your case, Sm = 1/2(60+100 MPa) = 80 MPa. Sa0=20/(1-80/120) = 60 MPa. Reading the S-N curve for 60 MPa indicates a life of 1 million cycles. Nastran calculated 982000 cycles.
In summary, the calculated stress to use for interpolating the S-N curve is the alternating stress with a correction due to the mean stress: Sa0
The attachment to this article gives more details about the calculations. See How to understand Fatigue analysis in Nastran | Inventor Nastran | Autodesk Knowledge Network.
John
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