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Coordinate system which is algined to the weldseam

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roman.gebhard5MV47
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Coordinate system which is algined to the weldseam

roman.gebhard5MV47
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Hello together,

 

my problem is that i would like to prove one weldseam with the effective notch stress method.

In FKM is written down that i have to use a Coordinate system which is algined to the weldseam.

How can i transponse this?

 

I can't define a coordinate system before, because i don't know where the maximum position is in advance.

I need a coordinate system with one axis parallel to the surface and one axis perpendicular to the surface, where the maximum value is positioned.

A further problem is that the surface isn't flat.

There is a radius of 1mm in the weldseam because of the effective notch stress method.

 

It isn't a specific Nastran in CAD problem, moreover to prove a weldseam.

Thanks in advance. 

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Coordinate system which is algined to the weldseam

Hello together,

 

my problem is that i would like to prove one weldseam with the effective notch stress method.

In FKM is written down that i have to use a Coordinate system which is algined to the weldseam.

How can i transponse this?

 

I can't define a coordinate system before, because i don't know where the maximum position is in advance.

I need a coordinate system with one axis parallel to the surface and one axis perpendicular to the surface, where the maximum value is positioned.

A further problem is that the surface isn't flat.

There is a radius of 1mm in the weldseam because of the effective notch stress method.

 

It isn't a specific Nastran in CAD problem, moreover to prove a weldseam.

Thanks in advance. 

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viktor.velichko
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Hello, Roman! Can you attach model of your weldseam? It will be more simple to undestand the problem. And excuse me I don't know, what FKM is?

May be you can help using idealisations with specify coordinate system. It also allows see results in the same coordinate system.

 

path1.jpg

 

 

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Hello, Roman! Can you attach model of your weldseam? It will be more simple to undestand the problem. And excuse me I don't know, what FKM is?

May be you can help using idealisations with specify coordinate system. It also allows see results in the same coordinate system.

 

path1.jpg

 

 

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roman.gebhard5MV47
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To read out the stresses, one axis has to parallel to the weldseam, the other perpendicular to the weldseam.

but both are in the same plane of the surface.

2021-06-08 10_41_25-0839_001.pdf und 4 weitere Seiten - Geschäftlich – Microsoft​ Edge.png

 

In my case the maximum is in the radius.

The stress parallel to the weldseam, is in my model along the Y-Axis.

But the stress perpendicular to the weldseam must be tangential to surface of the maximum point in the radius.

2021-06-08 10_09_22-Autodesk Inventor Professional 2020.png

2021-06-08 10_10_16-Autodesk Inventor Professional 2020.png

 

 

In the Attachement is my CAD-model.

 

My idea is that i read out the X, Y and Z normal and shear stresses and then start a coordinate system transformation.

But i do not exactly know in which angle the maximum point is positioned.

That would may be a way, but nothing exact.

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To read out the stresses, one axis has to parallel to the weldseam, the other perpendicular to the weldseam.

but both are in the same plane of the surface.

2021-06-08 10_41_25-0839_001.pdf und 4 weitere Seiten - Geschäftlich – Microsoft​ Edge.png

 

In my case the maximum is in the radius.

The stress parallel to the weldseam, is in my model along the Y-Axis.

But the stress perpendicular to the weldseam must be tangential to surface of the maximum point in the radius.

2021-06-08 10_09_22-Autodesk Inventor Professional 2020.png

2021-06-08 10_10_16-Autodesk Inventor Professional 2020.png

 

 

In the Attachement is my CAD-model.

 

My idea is that i read out the X, Y and Z normal and shear stresses and then start a coordinate system transformation.

But i do not exactly know in which angle the maximum point is positioned.

That would may be a way, but nothing exact.

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darrenlovesmusic
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@roman.gebhard5MV47 

 

I recommend "https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03266562"

and 

https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811055676

 

The references in the article will contain more information, if you have access. Also, if you are following a design code, the instructions may be prescribed. 

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@roman.gebhard5MV47 

 

I recommend "https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03266562"

and 

https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811055676

 

The references in the article will contain more information, if you have access. Also, if you are following a design code, the instructions may be prescribed. 

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