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Tube & Pipe Fitting Misalignment Allowance

Tube & Pipe Fitting Misalignment Allowance

It would be incredibly helpful to be able to "build in" a misalignment tolerance into the fittings.  Currently, the tube/pipe needs to be perfectly perpendicular to the fitting face.  Allowing up to X degrees of misalignment will allow minor slope in tube/pipe runs without using the dreadful and flawed Self-draining feature.  This misalignment is able to replicated in the shop through coping and slight bending of tubes/pipes.

8 Comments
shawn.payne
Advocate

It would be nice if the tolerance level in tube and pipe could be user defined. I have some assemblies that autoroute will not work because the equipment is off by .00001. There are other instances that the amount it is off cannot even be measured. This would also be helpfull in parts lists because I have pipes that will not combine in the table because the segments are not exact to three decimal places. The amount of precision required for the tube and pipe, especially in self draining lines is excessive.

shawn.payne
Advocate

I have a route that will not connect to a fitting because it is off by 0.00029921. Is that level of precision really necessary? In the model you cant even measure that small of an amount. I had to place it in a idw to be able to measure it. Can we be able to adjust to tolerance or at least be able to measure it in the model? Tube & Pipe is the neglected step child and I would really appreciate some improvements.

 

 

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cmcconnell
Collaborator

I agree. It would also need to support x.xx mm of centerline offset. We run into this regularily with eccentric reducers in jacketed piping.

clamuro-IPEC
Enthusiast

An option to allow for this type of connection without inventor wanting to make it a 5-6 segment run with a bunch of elbows.

 

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l.stubbsPS49C
Participant

Agreed. Our company aims for compact pipework machinery and currently this is one of two fundamental issues with tube and pipe which us preventing us from using the software. An example of this issue is below.

 

The autoroute path (Picture 1) shows 5 bends are required to connect the two tees. However we can achieve the same result with less fittings and in a cleaner manner if we use our own route (Picture 2). Even using a derived path route to fit this will not work as tube & pipe software wont fit the final bend, and when I add the bend manually I cannot find a way of cutting back the pipe which overlaps (Pic 4 & 5)

 

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Payne_S
Enthusiast

If you scroll into as far as you can on the node that is giving the issue, I think you will find that the line section endpoints aren't connected properly. One line end point is most likely connected to a construction line that T&P uses. It is VERY small.


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crazyjpeters
Contributor

I run into this often, and currently, I'm trying to recreate a number of existing piping runs, which all are self-draining.  It's impossible to build these, or if I build the route, it can't populate because of the lack of flexibility in the fittings.  There ought to be some allowance for this.

shawn.payne
Advocate

I think the method is the problem. I can make all of these routes in tube and pipe without issue. Do not use auto route. Make your own routes. Self draining has its moody times but there is not a route that I can't create. If it can be built in the shop I can create it. Definitely do not do route elbow route elbow route. That is a very poor method.

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