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How many votes does it take to have that option available for the next Inventor release?
Does any other 3D modeling software on the market have that option available? Ive been asked to propose advanced 3D modeling software to tackle the everyday design tasks in our company and one of those tasks are external threads on weldment assemblies.
The industries we supply are Offshore and Subsea, slightly weak now but still demanding.
I am open to clarify over e-mail about where this method of machining is inevitable in our field of competence if Autodesk is interested to explore outside the box of fixed ideas how production should take place.
You asked: "How many votes does it take to have that option available for the next Inventor release?"
My sarcastic response would be: "the same as the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop" (I think I just dated myself with that reference).
If you're shopping for mid grade/mid level CAD packages such as Inventor, Solidworks, SolidEdge, etc. I can honestly say you'll be far better with Inventor, at least over those other two I mentioned. I've dealt with them all. SolidEdge is a close second to Inventor. Avoid, and I can't stress this enough, avoid Solidworks. It's a pain in the butt to deal with, especially from a CAD Admin standpoint...unless you enjoy installing and rolling out service packs every 45 days. Plus, unless SW has reconfigured their program, you're risking issues if you build to the 3rd or higher decimal place.
Let me explain - This goes back to their 2009 release. I had both, Inventor and SW in house and was directed to decide one or the other as we didn't need both. Hired a 3rd party shop to compare both as we used them on a daily basis. One of the main things we did was import neutral files from our suppliers. So 10 random files were selected and imported into both SW and Inventor. We typically held our parts to 3 or 4 place decimals. This "test" showed that 10 out of 10 neutral files imported into Inventor were accurate to the 9th decimal. On the other hand we found that 6 out of 10 files imported into SW were off randomly as of the 3rd decimal. For us, that's a 60% failure rate. We ran the test twice more with different files each time and the same deal. SW was promptly pulled out. When I contacted SW about this issue, their reply was basically "yeah, we know. But most of our clients don't create parts that accurate". I kid you not, that was their reply. I was floored and vowed to never do business with them again.
My advice to you,
1. don't fall for the hype and claims. If you listen to SW people they'll claim the program will butter your toast in the morning if you want it to.
2. Download the 30 day trials and compare them to the way YOU will be using them on a daily basis. Keep in mind, you only have 30 days to learn the software, no where near long enough to learn the more advanced features.
3. Request a demo - they'll all offer a canned demo but as you'll find, only Adesk or one of their resellers (I suggest Imaginit) will offer to do a demo on the fly with your parts and processes. SW demo jocks will most likely demand your files up to 3 weeks in advance, they create a canned demo and they will refuse to go off script. Don't fall for the fancy pics and videos, they are heavily doctored. In my experience, only Adesk and their resellers are they only ones that'll go off script and demo on the fly and admit if their software can't do something. The other guys will insist their software can do EVERYTHING and then once you buy it they'll claim "Oh, yeah...that's coming in a future release".
4. Consider the fact that you are here on this board posting this question/comment - As typical of Adesk, these discussion/help groups and all service packs, etc. are open and free to the public. With SW, you MUST be a current paying subscriber to post anything on their official boards or to get any service packs/updates.
5. simply just do your research and come to the conclusion that works best for you. Inventor has always been the better choice for me over the years. Does it have its problems? Sure, they all do. Find me a program this complicated that doesn't. At least Adesk actually listens and allows their users to have input, even if it doesn't always work out the way we'd like.
@Anonymous The parent/master idea you referenced above is set as "Accepted", which means it is on our road map for future consideration. If you’re not already a member of the Inventor Feedback/beta program then click this link to apply – http://bit.ly/InventorBeta”. You can gain insight into every project the Inventor team is working on for upcoming updates and releases. Thanks!
I agree with you, this is definitely functionality we need in Inventor, very applicable in the real world. Years ago, we had Pro-Engineer. They did not have the ability to add fillets on the assembly level at the time. We tried to convince them that we needed to add fillets during machining processes. We never did get that tool from them, ended up going to Inventor as a company. I don't know if they have that ability now or not. Now we need Autodesk to give a listening ear and get this feature into Inventor, I hope they will get this done, it is a real need.
Dan Butler Senior Designer 120 Liberty Street Franklin PA 16323 United States
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External thread machining on weldments/assemblies is a core competency of manufacturing. When will this feature be developed? This topic seems to have some history of being disregarded.
External thread must be there in assembly level. We can not make derive part for each assembly bcoz derive part can't get i properties & bill of material of assembly. Thanks
External threads in Welded Assemblies has been approved by the Autodesk Inventor people. It is in process of being developed into the software. It takes time to develop and work it out. Also, they are doing much to implement many other ideas that users have suggested. It is on its way.
