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When you have a welding hinge, the movement of the hinge is not possible any more if you used the welding assembly function (flexible or position). The Idea is to have the same possibility that you have on standard assembly on welding assembly.
Agreed. Not all welded assemblies in the real world are 100% immobile. In addition to the weld hinge scenario, sometimes there are movable components that are retained by welded components, which during fabrication are built in place around them.
Think of something like a link that is held in place by a non-removable pin. The pin has welded-on retaining caps at the ends. During assembly, one end's retaining plate is welded on, and the pin, link, and other components are assembled. The the retaining plate on the other end of the pin is welded on, in place in the assembly.
Currently in Inventor, we have two choices:
We model this as it is actually built, and it becomes impossible to rotate the link through Positional Representations or Flexibility.
We model it in such a way that it is properly movable, leaving the fabrication sequence somewhat misleading on the drawings and models.
It would be great if we could represent this sort of scenario in a more realistic manner without compromising the ability of the components to move.
Just thought I'd chime in here and add the keyword "weldment". Flexible weldments are needed! Some weldments can indeed contain captive, moveable parts. There are loads of forum posts on this issue, and no side-effect free workarounds.
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Thanks for sharing your Idea. We use this forum to guide product development and help users in the best way we can based on voting. We occasionally merge Ideas or archive old ones to keep the forum working properly - it ensures there is room for people to review new Ideas and that the most relevant and meaningful ones can gain votes.
We’re archiving this Idea because it's been on the board for well over a year and hasn't received many votes from the community. If you want to raise it again and try to gain more support, you're welcome to do so. We’ve found
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- Inventor product team (Inv.idea review)
I find the fact that this issue was archived disheartening.
We include pivots, hinges, U-joints, etc. in weldments but desire flexibility to be maintained in higher level assemblies. To obtain this flexibility, I have to include the portions on either side of the flexible component in a higher assembly as a REF and this higher ass'y can be made flexible. While this works, it is often tedious to create the pieces and visibilities must be set up so the ass'y looks right when moving. It would be much simpler if Weldments were allowed to take a Flexible status.
