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direct delete solid surface bodies

direct delete solid surface bodies

i want to be able to delete solid surface bodies directly with all it´s underlaying features, maybe with a warning also to delete referenced sketches/features.

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18 Comments
michael_marx
Advocate

can´t delete solid bodies directly in history tree. Why?

So now you click in browser on the plus solid bodies folder then you see all solidbodies. You can hover over and see which one is the right but in contxt menu you can´t find the delete entry. So you have to go deeper find the base solid or the base feature to delete!

 

Michael

DRoam
Mentor

Problems:

  1. The Delete Face command can also delete “lumps” (isolated, separate “bodies” that are part of the same solid), but this capability is impossible to determine from the name of the command.
  2. The Delete Face command will not delete entire solids, nor will any other tool in Inventor. Even if we delete every lump within a solid, we’re left with just an empty solid in the Feature Tree that we can't get rid of.
  3. The Delete Face command can also delete “voids” (which will fill an empty, enclosed void with material). Not only is this capability impossible to determine from the name of the command, it doesn’t belong in the command at all (you’re not “deleting” anything, you’re ADDING material).
  4. There is no command in Inventor that will allow you to isolate a lump as its own solid, or transfer a lump from one solid to another.

 

The solution:

  1. Simply change the “Delete Face” command name to “Delete”.
  2. Allow the “Delete” command to delete faces, lumps, AND solids.
  3. Remove the “Void Fill” functionality from the Delete Face command and create a new command called simply: “Fill Void”.
  4. Create a new command called “Isolate/Transfer Lump” which allows isolating a lump as its own solid or transferring it to a different existing solid.

 

Simple. Any time a user wants to delete something, they use the “Delete” command. If they want to fill a void, they use the “Fill Void” command. If they want to isolate or transfer a lump to a different solid, they use the “Isolate/Transfer Lump” command. Done.

 

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Aadithya01
Advisor

Hey DRoam ,

 

Thanks for your reply with the pattern procedure in the forum . My request is that is it possible for you to screencast the pattern procedure for creating multi body lumps - a workaround that you have figured out in Inventor and post it in the forums and in the ideastation . I am sure lots of people will benefit from this .. 

 

Also the above solutions that you have given . Can you screencast for those . Cause we would really understand the intensity of the problem in that way and also about the workaround that you mentioned .. 

 

Also after you screencast could you send me the screencast link to this mail ID - [email protected]

 

Regards,

Aadithya S B

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DRoam
Mentor

Hi @Aadithya01. No problem, here is a Screencast showing the pattern workaround for isolating lumps as their own solid:

 

(Link: Screencast: How to push multiple lumps (i.e. separate bodies) within a solid into their own solid)

 

 

Regarding the solutions I gave in this idea -- those are suggestions for the Inventor developers to implement, not current solutions that can be done right now. They don't exist and aren't possible yet, hence this request for them. So I can't make a Screencast demonstrating those. But thank you for your vote on this post, hopefully with enough votes those solutions will be part of the software soon. 🙂

 

asiu
Advocate

@DRoam

 

I agree, I would rather have generic commands like "Delete" to work on the selection set.

[This will be easy to implement with a stronger entities filter.]

DRoam
Mentor

Another important point:

 

Ironically, the “Fill Void” command will fill a huge void in Inventor’s toolset which has confused many, many Inventor users. All it takes is a quick search in the forums to reveal the countless number for questions about how to “fill a cavity”, “fill a mold”, etc. The current methods suggested to these users are cumbersome, unintuitive, and unnecessary.

 

90% of the confusion could be solved by adding the “Fill Void” command which, when appropriate, would give this error message: “The Fill Void command requires a fully-enclosed, airtight cavity with no gaps or un-joined seams. First ensure there are no gaps. Then, either ensure there are no un-joined seams, or consider using the Sculpt tool instead to fill voids formed by disconnected surfaces.”

 

imajar
Advisor

I Completely agree with the ability to delete solids.  As a previous solidworks user, this is one feature that I have greatly missed.  

DRoam
Mentor

Thanks for the input, @imajar. I did some looking and SolidWorks does definitely have some very handy tools for deleting solid bodies. In fact, it can not only delete solid bodies, it can also "isolate" specific solids, which could be extremely useful (has been discussed before here).

 

Take a look at this video showing SolidWorks' capabilities.

 

And as always, the ease of creating configurations in SolidWorks, as shown in the video, will make any Inventor user cry. Please vote here to help get Inventor more up to par in that area.

 

Anonymous
Not applicable

I wish inventor will have a DELETE BODY command because it is very handy when your using multi-body parts modeling.

 

Here is a good conversation of me and 

 

 

AttilaFarkas
Advocate

I agree. It should be a basic command in multibody environment.

DRoam
Mentor
inv.ideareview
Autodesk
Status changed to: Archived

Thanks for sharing your Idea. We use this forum to guide product development and help users in the best way we can, based on voting. We occasionally merge Ideas or archive old ones to keep the forum working properly - it ensures there is room for people to review new Ideas and that the most relevant and meaningful ones can gain votes. We’re archiving this Idea because it's been on the board for well over a year and hasn't received many votes from the community. If you want to raise it again and try to gain more support, you're welcome to do so. We’ve found that pictures and mock-ups can help get concepts across and win more votes from other users. If you have questions or see a connection between this Idea and others, let us know. - Inventor product team (Inv.idea review)

dan_szymanski
Autodesk
Status changed to: Future Consideration

Idea added to backlog for future consideration [27627]. Thanks!

tstoutYZ3MS
Advocate

Just like it says: Right now, the user is required to first open the Solid Bodies folder in the feature browser, then click on the appropriate plus sign to select the desired solid body to delete, then right click the icon for the exact solid body, then select the "Delete" option in the right-click menu. Talk about tedious. A simple right click of the particular solid body in the Inventor view window, followed by selection of a "Delete Solid Body" menu option would save 15 seconds on each body deleted. Time is of the essence.

NachoShaw
Advisor

I put some code together last year after a seminar discussion that told me me separating a solid lump by selecting it couldnt be done, in an effort to prove a point, i was able to create a method that allowed me to select a solid and make a new lump out of it.

 

I have the intention to write it out in vb.net as it was a quick VBA test but it works

 

 

Pate.MacKenna
Enthusiast

Fill Void can be very handy but I think a lot of users don't even know it exists, since it's hidden under Delete Face.

 

Provided we had an Isolate Lump tool, the "transfer" portion could be accomplished with Combine... not sure that's better than the proposal.  

 

Copy Object also functions as a sort of Transfer tool; albeit without the ability to isolate a lump.  This is also a woefully ignored and under-appreciated tool.

 

While the improved functionality will be great, streamlining the UI and using more-intuitive naming, as the others have suggested, will help a lot!

Yijiang.Cai
Autodesk
Status changed to: Gathering Support
 
Yijiang.Cai
Autodesk
Status changed to: Future Consideration

Many thanks for posting the idea, and tracked as [INVGEN-76574]

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