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Create multiple frames in one assembly (Frame Generator)

Create multiple frames in one assembly (Frame Generator)

Create multiple frames in one assembly (Frame Generator)

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HughBIM
Contributor

Currently in an assembly I can only build one frame whereas for the purposes of detailing for manufacturing I may have occasion to actually have 2 or 3 frames from the same layout sketch in the same assembly...this normally requires the creation of 3 separate assemblies from one sketch combined together at a top level assembly...a lot of work and duplication. 

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brotherkennyh
Advocate

why not just use sub assemblies?

Anonymous
Not applicable

Frames are already Subassemblies, aren't they...? So packing them in a sub-sub just for this reason seems to be a bit hacky... 😞

The BOM-Structure weren't clean in this way, too... I personally think, if there is a "numbering" on the Frames by default, it implies the ability to have more of them.

Am I wrong?

brotherkennyh
Advocate

Yes the frame itself is a sub assemblies in a sense, but they rely on some of the files in the assembly they are in. In the bill of materials I believe the frame sub assembly is ignored as though the components are in the main assembly.

 

A "Frame" usually consists of more components than the members themselves. The frame subassembly you are thinking of is really a wrapper for the members.

 

More complex projects require multi level sub assemblies. You will find advantages in having each frame in its own sub assembly, it gives you the option to separate the BOM and it allows you to work on them independently.

 

I you want them both to be based on the same base component or skeleton you can add that part file into 2 separate assembly files before making the frames. Then bring the 2 frames together in a main assembly file.

 

Hope I explained that clearly.

dba78
Advocate

Hah... was logged in with my other accout :)... 

 

 

Actually, Frames are physical assemblies with the "Phantom" flag for BOM. Using the proposed SubAssy way, leads to a substructure in the BOM.

Therefore you don't have all the beams on one level.

 

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Considering there is an actual Machine in the main assy, the BOM-setting"parts only" (not sure about the english term) seems not to be an option om partlist-generation. So you go with structured list, all levels:

 

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However, I just want to say, there CAN be scenarios, where the need of placing more frames per Assembly is a legitimate.

BR,

Daniel

dba78
Advocate

Just tested... for sake of completeness.

If you set the BOM-Type for your Dummy-Sub as Phantom, you get them all in one level in part list...

 

So Kenny's soluton is a feasible workaround (with extra effort...).

 

But on the base I stick to my opinion Smiley Happy

BR,

Daniel

brotherkennyh
Advocate

Hi Daniel,

I am not clear on why you can't use parts only. How are you trying to break you BOM up?

 

Sorry if I seem a little resistant to your idea. I have been following the Ideastation since it was started and it has only led me to be frustrated with Autodesk's development priorities. It has led me to jump on ideas that I feel there are workable solutions for.

 

BR

Kenny

dba78
Advocate

HI Kenny,

 

1 pic can say more then 100 words Smiley HappySmiley HappySmiley Happy

 

Partslist=Strucured (with - as mentioned - dummy-Frame-subassy BOM set to Phantom)

 

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Partslist=Parts only

 

2017-02-24_16h11_41.png

 

I think, the first version is the desired output of OP, which shall be achieved w/o Dummy-Subassemblies.

BR,

Daniel

 

dusan.naus.trz
Advisor

Maybe it would be interesting for Frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcJ8Dczw538

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Anonymous
Not applicable

I'm honestly surprised that each newly initiated instance of Frame Generator isn't already its own separate BOM line item already. I do like dusan's approach above in making an adaptive and still separate Frame Generator instance.

tstout9GFVP
Advocate

This was submitted seven years ago. Why is it not implemented yet?

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